Gorr, Thanos, Hela vs. Doomsday, Zod, Steppenwolf

Originally posted by h1a8
By who? Zod is much faster than all of these characters and somewhat stronger and more durable.

You didn't address my arguments though. Do you ever debate properly?

The person is irrelevant, the argument is the only thing that matters. Otherwise you are committing an ad hominem fallacy.

Any one of the characters on the board could snap his neck if they got ahold of him. He isnt that durable that his neck couldnt be snapped.

Your opinion of Zod is purely based on assumption. The facts are that he has never won a fight onscreen. Not one. He was bested by a scientist and an untrained farm boy. Even with his powerset, he is the worst combatant on the field.

Originally posted by tkitna
Any one of the characters on the board could snap his neck if they got ahold of him. He isnt that durable that his neck couldnt be snapped.

Your opinion of Zod is purely based on assumption. The facts are that he has never won a fight onscreen. Not one. He was bested by a scientist and an untrained farm boy. Even with his powerset, he is the worst combatant on the field.

So could a human beat Zod? Wth are you talking about?
Cap was untrained and beating soldiers like fodder.

Skill is irrelevant here. Zod is so much faster and stronger. They are not grabbing him. What are you smoking? Even if he allows them to grab him. He would rag doll them like toys.

Yoir imagination has Zod turning his back and allowing them to walk up and grab his neck and attempt to snap it. Lmfao

Originally posted by h1a8
So could a human beat Zod? Wth are you talking about?
Cap was untrained and beating soldiers like fodder.

Skill is irrelevant here. Zod is so much faster and stronger. They are not grabbing him. What are you smoking? Even if he allows them to grab him. He would rag doll them like toys.

Yoir imagination has Zod turning his back and allowing them to walk up and grab his neck and attempt to snap it. Lmfao

None of these characters are human.

Skill is relevant because Zod is an idiot that would definitely melee. You believe he is so much physically superior to the others that it wouldnt matter and thats where your argument fails. Each of them is capable of getting a win against him and yes, they could all snap his neck if they got ahold of him. Sure Zod could win, but its not cut and dry like you want to believe.

Originally posted by tkitna
None of these characters are human.

Skill is relevant because Zod is an idiot that would definitely melee. You believe he is so much physically superior to the others that it wouldnt matter and thats where your argument fails. Each of them is capable of getting a win against him and yes, they could all snap his neck if they got ahold of him. Sure Zod could win, but its not cut and dry like you want to believe.

Originally posted by h1a8
The problem is speed. They are too slow.
If you are significantly faster then skill doesn't matter. Just look at flash (he has basically no fighting skill).
If speed was equalized I would say Hela and Thanos could beat Zod.
Gorr might pull some wins if his sword can cut Zod.

Speed is great if you know what to do with it. Flash is fast. Why didnt he take Steppenwolf out himself? Why didnt he just grab the mother box and run with it? This is the point i'm making with Zod. He's an idiot. If I thought for a moment he would use his speed to the best of its ability, we wouldnt be having this conversation. The most likely scenario is that he's coming with fists a flying and eye beams a blazing and that would be his downfall.

Like I said, he should probably win, but chances are he wouldnt. Skill does matter.

Not sure Zod's an idiot, but he would definitely take on whichever opponent came his way first H2H, he's a warrior.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure Zod's an idiot, but he would definitely take on whichever opponent came his way first H2H, he's a warrior.

Yeah idiot was a bit much. I just meant he wouldnt use his abilities to their utmost. Its just not in his character. My whole point is, if he went H2H first, he could be in trouble.

Originally posted by tkitna
Some of them is the important part here. Dodging some of them is easy enough, but a wall of them,,,,,no.

Originally posted by tkitna
Yeah idiot was a bit much. I just meant he wouldnt use his abilities to their utmost. Its just not in his character. My whole point is, if he went H2H first, he could be in trouble.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
You're also forgetting that Zod is the only one here that can fly. Zod will beat Hela . How would Hela handle an eye beam from Zod?

I'm not forgetting that. I'm saying its not in his character to stay out of reach.

As for the eye beams, not sure. Heck, she maybe able to handle them just fine. She has an insane healing factor. I'd have to rewatch the movie to see if Thor hit her with anything like his lightning that might be comparable. Its been awhile.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
I don't think you read what I wrote, I was referring to Thor defending "some of them" Or are you in any way, comparing Thor to Supes in Speed? That would be crazy. If Thor can block some of hela's attacks, All Hela's attacks would be completely still against Superman , including Thor and the rest of the Asgardians infact . Quicksilver statued Thor lol.

Thor blocked the swords when she was only tossing one or two at a time. She is capable of throwing many more at one time. Even Hogun blocked three or so of them when she threw single swords. I'm talking about an entire barrage of them like she threw at the valkyries. I'm assuming your thinking Zod would see them as still objects with his speed and I dont feel that is the case.

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Originally posted by tkitna
Thor blocked the swords when she was only tossing one or two at a time. She is capable of throwing many more at one time. Even Hogun blocked three or so of them when she threw single swords. I'm talking about an entire barrage of them like she threw at the valkyries. I'm assuming your thinking Zod would see them as still objects with his speed and I dont feel that is the case.

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Didn't Thor throw a huge lightning beam on top of Hela and it did nothing? What is Zod eye beam supposed to do.

Originally posted by carver9
Didn't Thor throw a huge lightning beam on top of Hela and it did nothing? What is Zod eye beam supposed to do.

It incapacitated her for a moment. She recovered though. Also she was in Asgard, which plays a factor in her power.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
The reason we're here, is because you're making fun of steppenwolf because Superman humiliated him. I'm telling you there's no shame in that because he'd do the same to Hela.

We're here because Steppenwolf would get easily ragdolled by Hela and you dont like it. He is the runt of the litter in this battle.

Originally posted by h1a8
It incapacitated her for a moment. She recovered though. Also she was in Asgard, which plays a factor in her power.

Incapacitated her? It did nothing but knock her down and she immediately got back up.

Originally posted by tkitna
Incapacitated her? It did nothing but knock her down and she immediately got back up.

Originally posted by h1a8
It incapacitated her for a moment. She recovered though. Also she was in Asgard, which plays a factor in her power.

No it didn't and based off fts, Thor standard lightning>>>>Zod eye beams.

Where was it said Asgard amps her?

Originally posted by h1a8
You need to re-watch the movie. She was out of the fight for at least 5 or more seconds. The movie never showed her getting right back up. You are making stuff.

The movie clip is right here in this very thread. Show me where she was incapacitated at any point.

Show me again where she was incapacitated.

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