Order based on who would win a fight

Started by DarkSaint8513 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
It depends on Thanos range on his point and shoot Bfr.
For example, if it's 1000ft then Tyrant can get back.

So unless you prove Thanos range is beyond Tyrants range (including using multiple ports) then you can't say for sure that he can Bfr Tyrant to win.

As my current stance, I don't know whether Tyrant can get back or not. That's my current stance. So there is no more onus on me but now you.

Well that's one point shot down, on to the next then.

At the very least, we know Thanos can do it from space to Earth, as seen on page 5 of this thread.

Let's start there. Now you show Tyrant's teleportation range. Remember, you said we don't give special attributes without proof. If neither of us know, we can't just assume Tyrant's teleportation is good enough to enable him to get back in good time.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well that's one point shot down, on to the next then.

At the very least, we know Thanos can do it from space to Earth, as seen on page 5 of this thread.

Let's start there. Now you show Tyrant's teleportation range. Remember, you said we don't give special attributes without proof. If neither of us know, we can't just assume Tyrant's teleportation is good enough to enable him to get back in good time.


Special attributes is an attribute a person doesn't naturally have by the status quo.

Tyrant doesn't need to teleport from space to Earth distance. He can just travel through flight.

As he flies to get back in good time, he then flies through a portal into Death's dimension.

Thanks.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
As he flies to get back in good time, he then flies through a portal into Death's dimension.

Thanks.

Or Thanos does the same again - here he BFRs Champion over interplanetary distances:

Thanos doesn't go fisticuffs, in character, and likes to use BFR (see Gladiator).

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
As he flies to get back in good time, he then flies through a portal into Death's dimension.

Thanks.

How far from Thanos can Thanos create a portal?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or Thanos does the same again - here he BFRs Champion over interplanetary distances:

Thanos doesn't go fisticuffs, in character, and likes to use BFR (see Gladiator).


Tyrant just flies back

Thanos blasts and goes fisticuffs, in character. In fact he didn't attempt to Bfr Tyrant recently (2nd confrontation).

Originally posted by h1a8
Tyrant just flies back

Thanos blasts and goes fisticuffs, in character. In fact he didn't attempt to Bfr Tyrant recently (2nd confrontation).

And how long would that take? What is Tyrant's flight speed, please? Scans will also be needed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And how long would that take? What is Tyrant's flight speed, please? Scans will also be needed.

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Originally posted by h1a8
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So he can't get back in good time, without any special attributes like superspeed flight. As an example, not sure if you know this but the Space Shuttle takes nearly 10 minutes to reach the International Space Station, from launch. We of course can't even assume this speed for Tyrant, without proof. Good chat 🙂

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So he can't get back in good time, without any special attributes like superspeed flight. As an example, not sure if you know this but the Space Shuttle takes nearly 10 minutes to reach the International Space Station, from launch. We of course can't even assume this speed for Tyrant, without proof. Good chat 🙂

You have to prove that Tyrant can't.
What's the definition of superspeed flight?
You have to give a definition of reasonable time.

Space can be 62 miles from surface. Space shuttle will take seconds to cover that distance.

Originally posted by h1a8
You have to prove that Tyrant can't.
What's the definition of superspeed flight?
You have to give a definition of reasonable time.

Space can be 62 miles from surface. Space shuttle will take seconds to cover that distance.

Nope. Otherwise it is a no limits fallacy. Without proof, we cannot simply assume special characteristics. I gave a minimum (the Space Shuttle example), but even that has no proof for poor Tyrant.

I think of superspeed as Mach 1 and above. As for reasonable time? You tell me. All I know is, Tyrant can't make it lmao. It doesn't matter if it's 10 seconds, 20, 30, 1 minute, 2......

I personally think of it like a ten count. If someone is KOd for ten seconds, that's a KO. If they can 'make it back' in 8 seconds, it's not a KO.

Even if the Space Shuttle can cover that distance (lol), Tyrant has proof he can do the same? Scans, please.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nope. Otherwise it is a no limits fallacy. Without proof, we cannot simply assume special characteristics. I gave a minimum (the Space Shuttle example), but even that has no proof for poor Tyrant.

I think of superspeed as Mach 1 and above. As for reasonable time? You tell me. All I know is, Tyrant can't make it lmao. It doesn't matter if it's 10 seconds, 20, 30, 1 minute, 2......

I personally think of it like a ten count. If someone is KOd for ten seconds, that's a KO. If they can 'make it back' in 8 seconds, it's not a KO.

Even if the Space Shuttle can cover that distance (lol), Tyrant has proof he can do the same? Scans, please.

Well reasonable time is not defined. It takes a matter of seconds to cover 62 miles when traveling slightly under Mach 1

Originally posted by h1a8
Well reasonable time is not defined. It takes a matter of seconds to cover 62 miles when traveling slightly under Mach 1

Yup, but as I said, it doesn't matter - because unless we have proof, Tyrant can't make it back because we can't prove his flight speed, alas.

Thanos was at orbital height far above the planet btw when he BFRd Surfer and Spidey, just as an aside (far more than 62 miles). Of course, you knew that, right?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yup, but as I said, it doesn't matter - because unless we have proof, Tyrant can't make it back because we can't prove his flight speed, alas.

Thanos was at orbital height far above the planet btw when he BFRd Surfer and Spidey, just as an aside (far more than 62 miles). Of course, you knew that, right?

You can orbit at 62 miles just fine.

Reasonable time has to be defined and agreed upon before claiming that Tyrant can't make it back in a reasonable time.

Originally posted by h1a8
You can orbit at 62 miles just fine.

Reasonable time has to be defined and agreed upon before claiming that Tyrant can't make it back in a reasonable time.

Not in the comic, it wasn't 62 miles, so moot.

This of course ignores Thanos BFRing Champion to a random uninhabited inplanet, casually.

Moreover, it ignores my B punch, which is that as Tyrant is speeding back as fast as possible to make it back, a portal can simply open in front of him, sending him to Death's realm, or 200 lightyears away.

It also ignores my C punch, which is that Thanos can simply rinse and repeat the entire exercise.

And D, reasonable time can be X minutes or seconds - without any quantifiable (flightspeed) feats (as per mods), Tyrant can't be said to make ANY time back. His flightspeed could be 100 mph, lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not in the comic, it wasn't 62 miles, so moot.

This of course ignores Thanos BFRing Champion to a random uninhabited inplanet, casually.

Moreover, it ignores my B punch, which is that as Tyrant is speeding back as fast as possible to make it back, a portal can simply open in front of him, sending him to Death's realm, or 200 lightyears away.

It also ignores my C punch, which is that Thanos can simply rinse and repeat the entire exercise.

And D, reasonable time can be X minutes or seconds - without any quantifiable (flightspeed) feats (as per mods), Tyrant can't be said to make ANY time back. His flightspeed could be 100 mph, lol.

But you don't know the exact distance. So your point is moot.

How far in front can Thanos create a portal?
Tyrant can simply stop or slow once he's back in the battlefield. And how big is the battlefield exactly? You once debated its size with me.

Originally posted by h1a8
But you don't know the exact distance. So your point is moot.

How far in front can Thanos create a portal?
Tyrant can simply stop or slow once he's back in the battlefield. And how big is the battlefield exactly? You once debated its size with me.

We can do a minimum. Aren't you the one who likes to use estimates? We can do the same here.

To prove this minimum, I can post the comic scans showing the distance. For you to prove your minimum speed, you can post.... whatever proof you have to support it.

I notice you're ignoring my other points. Alas.

Told you I can draw this out lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not in the comic, it wasn't 62 miles, so moot.

This of course ignores Thanos BFRing Champion to a random uninhabited inplanet, casually.

Moreover, it ignores my B punch, which is that as Tyrant is speeding back as fast as possible to make it back, a portal can simply open in front of him, sending him to Death's realm, or 200 lightyears away.

It also ignores my C punch, which is that Thanos can simply rinse and repeat the entire exercise.

And D, reasonable time can be X minutes or seconds - without any quantifiable (flightspeed) feats (as per mods), Tyrant can't be said to make ANY time back. His flightspeed could be 100 mph, lol.


I didn't see this post.
You don't know the distance the planet was away.
We don't have a precise definition of reasonable time.
Rinse and repeat is irrelevant. That's not a forum win.
Define the exact size of the battlefield?
Given any speed and distance, a time can be calculated. So your assertion that Tyrant can't make ANY time is false.

But you don't have a speed. Do you?

Edit: also strange that you didn't see it.....yet replied directly and quoted it. Mysterious.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But you don't have a speed. Do you?

Edit: also strange that you didn't see it.....yet replied directly and quoted it. Mysterious.

Without a distance and defined time then speed is irrelevant. 2 unknowns = 1 unknown
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