Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think you are confusing 'unknown' with 'irrelevant'. What would YOU consider a reasonable time? We can just get a mod in, no problem.
As for distance, I have already said an estimate can be made based on the occurrences in the comic
62 miles is considered space. That's an estimate.
Anything other than that is speculative.
How large is the battlefield exactly? That's important.
Originally posted by h1a8
I was referring to reasonable time and known distance Tyrant is teleported back.62 miles is considered space. That's an estimate.
Anything other than that is speculative.
How large is the battlefield exactly? That's important.
Your estimate is not based on the comic art though, alas. But on lowballing based on ignorance (you don't know what I am talking about or the comic on question).
Originally posted by DarkSaint85The art doesn't show the distance sanctuary 2 was away from Earth in that scene.
Your estimate is not based on the comic art though, alas. But on lowballing based on ignorance (you don't know what I am talking about or the comic on question).
Originally posted by DarkSaint85That's the starting distance. Not the distance of the battlefield. Well if it was further than 62 miles then how far was it? Prove it.
😂 @Stilt. But I have other toys!!It shows it was further than 62 miles. Which is what you are basing your estimate on.
The battlefield is merely two characters separated by 0.5km from each other.
And whatever do you mean?
Sure. From the moon, you can see Earth as a disc, ~380,000km. Let's halve this, based on Spidey's view of Earth - so 190,000km.
Let's arbitrarily shave another 40,000km off, so 150,000km. That's my estimate. Lowballing here. We can even halve this again, so 75,000km, based on absolutely nothing. So a range of 75,000km.
All this discussion about BFR via teleportation seems somewhat insincere. Approaching it a different way, it’s unclear to me Thanos would resort to such measures against a foe of Tyrant’s caliber.
Thanos uses it, yes. But he appears to use it on foes he’s dismissive of or just doesn’t have the time to waste on. Not like he’s used BFR via teleportation against high herald+ foes like Maker, Odin, Galactus or… quite tellingly against Tyrant himself.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sure. From the moon, you can see Earth as a disc, ~380,000km. Let's halve this, based on Spidey's view of Earth - so 190,000km.Let's arbitrarily shave another 40,000km off, so 150,000km. That's my estimate. Lowballing here. We can even halve this again, so 75,000km, based on absolutely nothing. So a range of 75,000km.
Its a lot closer than that.
https://imgur.com/a/s6xmx0c
How large is the battlefield? You once argued with me that it is extremely large. Do you remember that argument?
Originally posted by ODG
All this discussion about BFR via teleportation seems somewhat insincere. Approaching it a different way, it’s unclear to me Thanos would resort to such measures against a foe of Tyrant’s caliber.Thanos uses it, yes. But he appears to use it on foes he’s dismissive of or just doesn’t have the time to waste on. Not like he’s used BFR via teleportation against high herald+ foes like Maker, Odin, Galactus or… quite tellingly against Tyrant himself.
Originally posted by h1a8
Its a lot closer than that.
https://imgur.com/a/s6xmx0cHow large is the battlefield? You once argued with me that it is extremely large. Do you remember that argument?
Hence the arbitrary halving and removing of Kms. The 380,000km was merely the starting point; as you can see, I finally came up with 75,000km, or 20% of that distance. I agree that 75,000km is a lot less than 380,000,km. Why, what is your estimate?
I believe I argued it was about 10km?
Originally posted by ODG
All this discussion about BFR via teleportation seems somewhat insincere. Approaching it a different way, it’s unclear to me Thanos would resort to such measures against a foe of Tyrant’s caliber.Thanos uses it, yes. But he appears to use it on foes he’s dismissive of or just doesn’t have the time to waste on. Not like he’s used BFR via teleportation against high herald+ foes like Maker, Odin, Galactus or… quite tellingly against Tyrant himself.
Yes, but.....in a forum match, shorn of the need for a depiction of a long sexy fight, Thanos can do so. He already knows who Tyrant is, what he can do - forum rules around CIS and Full capacity will apply.
Plus, we can argue that they have a nice long fight, punching and blasting. Oh look, Thanos is losing. He's about to die....
Why not use BFR then, winning the match? It's Thanos. Winning is winning m
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Thanos still wouldn't resort to the tactic. He would rather be koed or killed (he embraces Death anyway).
Yes, but.....in a forum match, shorn of the need for a depiction of a long sexy fight, Thanos can do so. He already knows who Tyrant is, what he can do - forum rules around CIS and Full capacity will apply.Plus, we can argue that they have a nice long fight, punching and blasting. Oh look, Thanos is losing. He's about to die....
Why not use BFR then, winning the match? It's Thanos. Winning is winning m
But ODG is correct about your insincere discussion here.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hence the arbitrary halving and removing of Kms. The 380,000km was merely the starting point; as you can see, I finally came up with 75,000km, or 20% of that distance. I agree that 75,000km is a lot less than 380,000,km. Why, what is your estimate?I believe I argued it was about 10km?
That was an "if then" argument. If using my rules then 10km and not 5km.
But you never agreed to my interpretation. This is one of your quotes
horizons don't =/= spheres. You can have horizons with an infinitely flat plain, the mods made no mistake. You have Google, use it
Originally posted by h1a8
You are begging the question (a logical fallacy). You are assuming the chair is standard equipment without proof. Sarcastic "why wouldn't he have his standard equipment."
Slick boy you are.
Thanoz doesn't need the chair, his ship or a cosmic cube to BFR or teleport adversaries. He has used all three hut he has also ALWAYS had the power of teleportation as a base power.
https://i.imgur.com/XZygus6.jpg
The reason he uses tech more than just using his power is that it is uncomfortable and requires great concentration
https://i.imgur.com/8UKUdVT.jpg
Something not possible in a pitched battle with many opponents. But against a single opponent I don't think there would be a problem.
In any case given how often Thanos has teleported without the chair etc its pretty evident that he does have teleport facility as a standard
Here he teleports with a touch of his belt.
Originally posted by beatboks
Thanoz doesn't need the chair, his ship or a cosmic cube to BFR or teleport adversaries. He has used all three hut he has also ALWAYS had the power of teleportation as a base power.https://i.imgur.com/XZygus6.jpg
The reason he uses tech more than just using his power is that it is uncomfortable and requires great concentration
https://i.imgur.com/8UKUdVT.jpg
Something not possible in a pitched battle with many opponents. But against a single opponent I don't think there would be a problem.
In any case given how often Thanos has teleported without the chair etc its pretty evident that he does have teleport facility as a standard
Here he teleports with a touch of his belt.
Lol
You are a week late. A million scans were posted showing Thanos opening portals without the chair. We are not debating that anymore but something else. Everyone is in agreement on that particular matter
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Cuz he consistently uses BFR teleport against a certain caliber of foe who he considers beneath him. Whereas with trans-level+ characters, he doesn’t. Other examples are original Magus, Walker, Lord Mar-Vell, etc. I dunno, maybe I’m wrong and he has BFR’ed trans-level+ characters.
Yes, but.....in a forum match, shorn of the need for a depiction of a long sexy fight, Thanos can do so. He already knows who Tyrant is, what he can do - forum rules around CIS and Full capacity will apply.Plus, we can argue that they have a nice long fight, punching and blasting. Oh look, Thanos is losing. He's about to die....
Why not use BFR then, winning the match? It's Thanos. Winning is winning m
I’m not saying it’s not worth discussing. But this issue dominating the thread gives it the appearance that Tyrant’s ability to return from BRR is determinative of this thread 10/10. This thread is about a hypothetical thread, not about whether these characters can thwart BFR.
And to be clear, I do consider a BFR a win if that’s the end result of the encounter. But I’d rather accord this issue its proper due… which is probably 1-2x at best in fights against characters like these.
And it’s not exactly definitively resolved that Tyrant cannot thwart BFR. Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence.
Originally posted by h1a8
Lol
You are a week late. A million scans were posted showing Thanos opening portals without the chair. We are not debating that anymore but something else. Everyone is in agreement on that particular matter
LOL is right.
Some of us have lives and don't need to be on forums 24/7 to validate our existence. You made a failed argument that I commented on an hour after entering the thread for the first time with 4 scans to prove it. 4 scans for a character I've probably read lessnthann10% of the appearances of and am only slightly versed in. I'd only read 2 or so pages. I've now read a few more and the ineptitude, hypocrisy and failure of your arguments isn't beyond obvious.
Originally posted by h1a8
So a being that LIVES in space, has the power cosmic in vast abundance more than any Herald, that feeds off biospheres from star system to star system, has no way of traveling FTL?
Are you serious?
The fact that he has the power cosmic is enough proof.
The fact that he goes from star system to star system feeding is proof.How would be able to affect ANYTHING in the story if he's confined to a small region of space and no way of having any type of influence on anything? Why was he a threat?
You ask this tight after you asked for proof of the ability of Thanos to BFR an adversary. Let's compare your statement to how it would apply to Thanos
You for Tyrant
So a being that LIVES in space
Thanos
So a being that LIVES in space
Tyrant
has the power cosmic in vast abundance more than any Herald
Thanos
Is the most powerful member vastly enhanced several times over of a race known to have thenimate ability of teleportation and space displacement.
Tyrant
that feeds off biospheres from star system to star system, has no way of traveling FTL?
Thanos
Has the self enhanced power to manipulate energy including the very cosmic energy your at this point in the thread claiming (you may be claiming other things by now I'm only up to page 6 due to you know having a life) instantly qualifies him to return from a BFR.
Your dual standards of proof are astounding. You argued for 4 pages for DS to prove Thanos can BFR without the chair (which someone with my limited knowledge of Thanos could do in under an hour) and refused the whole time to offer proof that he needs the chair. But when your asked for proof that Tyrant can return from a BFR, a feat that has the exact same level of expectation of possible as Thanos BFRing with basic known facts you don't need to offer this proof.
At this point in this thread your a laughing stock that not no one takes seriously. The limited interest this thread held for me is now all yawns due to your failures and how low you've set the bar for debate
