Order based on who would win a fight

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Originally posted by beatboks
LOL is right.

Some of us have lives and don't need to be on forums 24/7 to validate our existence. You made a failed argument that I commented on an hour after entering the thread for the first time with 4 scans to prove it. 4 scans for a character I've probably read lessnthann10% of the appearances of and am only slightly versed in. I'd only read 2 or so pages. I've now read a few more and the ineptitude, hypocrisy and failure of your arguments isn't beyond obvious.

You ask this tight after you asked for proof of the ability of Thanos to BFR an adversary. Let's compare your statement to how it would apply to Thanos

You for Tyrant
So a being that LIVES in space

Thanos
So a being that LIVES in space

Tyrant
has the power cosmic in vast abundance more than any Herald

Thanos
Is the most powerful member vastly enhanced several times over of a race known to have thenimate ability of teleportation and space displacement.

Tyrant
that feeds off biospheres from star system to star system, has no way of traveling FTL?

Thanos
Has the self enhanced power to manipulate energy including the very cosmic energy your at this point in the thread claiming (you may be claiming other things by now I'm only up to page 6 due to you know having a life) instantly qualifies him to return from a BFR.

Your dual standards of proof are astounding. You argued for 4 pages for DS to prove Thanos can BFR without the chair (which someone with my limited knowledge of Thanos could do in under an hour) and refused the whole time to offer proof that he needs the chair. But when your asked for proof that Tyrant can return from a BFR, a feat that has the exact same level of expectation of possible as Thanos BFRing with basic known facts you don't need to offer this proof.

At this point in this thread your a laughing stock that not no one takes seriously. The limited interest this thread held for me is now all yawns due to your failures and how low you've set the bar for debate

Read the rest of the thread to see how comically late you are.
DS was wrong for not posting proof when being asked to and trolling me for many pages. This is well before Tyrant can travel FTL was a thing. The argument was about Mangog at the time. Why do you support that trolling? Point out ALL wrong and not some. Otherwise you have 0 credibility to say anything to anyone.

Being able to open portals without tech isn't a given.
Many powerful beings that can manipulate energy can't do that. It's not necessary power to have.

Being able to have some form of FTL mode of travel (like teleportation) for a being that is a threat to the universe is absolutely necessary. For example, He stated he was going to go after Galactus to defeat him (how will he reach him with no FTL travel?). Narrator stated he killed millions by going out in all the universe and wrecking havoc. Has the ability to morph into any tech, including the tech of his robots he created. And many more evidences.

Your logic is flawed. Anyway per mod ruling Tyrant doesn't have the ability to travel FTL. So why are you discussing something that is settled? Flaming?

So what you're saying is you're attempting to troll by refusing to give me proof of Tyrant's teleportation range or flight speed. Thanks.

Thanos wins by simple BFR. Like him, I have no real time nor inclination to engage with lesser beings.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So what you're saying is you're attempting to troll by refusing to give me proof of Tyrant's teleportation range or flight speed. Thanks.

Thanos wins by simple BFR. Like him, I have no real time nor inclination to engage with lesser beings.

I'm responded to someone else. How is that trolling you?
I'm confused?

I'm not making any claims about his range or fl8ght speed.
So you are trolling asking for proof of a non claim.

You still didn't prove that Thanos can BFR beyond the battlefield.
You still didn't provide any proof that Thanos will go against his character and Bfr a Tyrant level character. Especially him fighting him twice and not doing it once. Especially him being on the losing end multiple times and still not choosing to Bfr.

Ok

Haha

Sorry fool it's not comically late since I'm not discussing the thread but your ineptitude at making an argument and that is adequately proven by the point I'm up to.

DS stated in his first post on this thread (the 8th post on page 1) that Thanos could BFR and gave reference to a time he had. That was literally the end of the discussion re Thanos and BFR because he provided cited evidence of it being in character for Thanos who is the most powerful member of a race with the inate ability to do this.

You tried to ridicule others because it took so long to offer proof of something but you denied proof for just as long and we have plenty of evidence to show you were present and aware of the arguments and requests for proof (while one poster posted scans to support Thanos BFRing in both his first and second posts)

Your claim no proof is required due to powerset doesn't sit within the forum rules you call apon to ask for evidence of others. We don't feat share so just because one being with the power cosmic does something doesn't mean we accept that all do. Green Lanterns all use rings but use them differently. New Gods all have access to boom tubes or Mother Boxes so can BFR but do they? Proof is required in these arguments not because it's within their powerset to do so but to show its within their character and how they operate.

Proof that it was within Thanos' mindset to BFR was given by DS before you ever asked fornprrifnhe could do it. This alone settles that argument because being an eternal meant it was obvious he had the means just as much as your claim possession of power cosmic is for Tyrant.

It needs to be proven because we have nothing to show that

1. It's within Tyrants mindset to operate this way.
2. That if he does so it is within a time frame that would beat a 10 count which is all that is required for a forum win (just like a KO).

Never mind the fact that you need to counter DS's question about returning from dimensional BFR which very very few heralds of Galactus have done but evidence of Thanos doing has been provided.

The thread contents post where I've read are irrelivant to the obvious ineptitude I've called you on and frankly reading your failed arguments is boring.

It doesn't even matter if you backed up your statement with proof after where I've read since you attempted to ridicule DS for taking 4 pages to do so and I've read 3 of you not complying

With that I'm done. If

Originally posted by beatboks
Haha

Sorry fool it's not comically late since I'm not discussing the thread but your ineptitude at making an argument and that is adequately proven by the point I'm up to.

DS stated in his first post on this thread (the 8th post on page 1) that Thanos could BFR and gave reference to a time he had. That was literally the end of the discussion re Thanos and BFR because he provided cited evidence of it being in character for Thanos who is the most powerful member of a race with the inate ability to do this.

So you admit to flaming me?

You have your facts mixed up.
DS stated that he can Bfr Mangog 200 light years away like he did Gladiator. I remembered the scene and that Thanos used the chair.
So the debate evolved to proving Thanos can OPEN PORTALS without the chair. DS didn't recall that he could at the time and started arguing the chair is standard equipment. Then once that wasn't working, he starting arguing that Thanos can teleport (everyone knows this). But being able to teleport oneself doesn't mean you can teleport others alone. Then DS found proof that Thanos can open portals without the chair. But he refused to post it and started trolling for pages.


You tried to ridicule others because it took so long to offer proof of something but you denied proof for just as long and we have plenty of evidence to show you were present and aware of the arguments and requests for proof (while one poster posted scans to support Thanos BFRing in both his first and second posts)

I didn't ridicule anyone. You lost your marbles dude.
I gave proof. Logical proof.
1. Tyrant traveling from the far reaches of the universe (more than 47 billion light years)
2. Tyrant going to different star systems
Etc

There are plenty of characters (Herald level and above) that travel through space from star system to star system and never been stated to go FTL.

It took 6 pages to post proof. After 1 page (not even that) of me not posting a certain kind of proof the mod came in. 6 pages vs 1. How is that the same?

Your claim no proof is required due to powerset doesn't sit within the forum rules you call apon to ask for evidence of others. We don't feat share so just because one being with the power cosmic does something doesn't mean we accept that all do. Green Lanterns all use rings but use them differently. New Gods all have access to boom tubes or Mother Boxes so can BFR but do they? Proof is required in these arguments not because it's within their powerset to do so but to show its within their character and how they operate.

That was only part of the argument. I listed things Tyrant was able to do and the fact that he was a threat, etc.
So do you believe that Tyrant has no FTL mode of travel? Be honest

Proof that it was within Thanos' mindset to BFR was given by DS before you ever asked fornprrifnhe could do it. This alone settles that argument because being an eternal meant it was obvious he had the means just as much as your claim possession of power cosmic is for Tyrant.

But DS didn't prove it. His reasoning was flawed. ODG pointed it out.

It needs to be proven because we have nothing to show that

1. It's within Tyrants mindset to operate this way.
2. That if he does so it is within a time frame that would beat a 10 count which is all that is required for a forum win (just like a KO).


For Tyrant to operate what way? No one gave an argument of how he would operate. Read the forum rules dude. No specific time was given to beat a Bfr. Rules state a REASONABLE TIME. Stop making stuff up.

Never mind the fact that you need to counter DS's question about returning from dimensional BFR which very very few heralds of Galactus have done but evidence of Thanos doing has been provided.

I did counter it. Thanos uses portals to dimensional travel. It's not guaranteed for Tyrant to go through one of Thanos portals.

The thread contents post where I've read are irrelivant to the obvious ineptitude I've called you on and frankly reading your failed arguments is boring.

It doesn't even matter if you backed up your statement with proof after where I've read since you attempted to ridicule DS for taking 4 pages to do so and I've read 3 of you not complying

With that I'm done.

Again I gave logical proof. 1 page didn't go by. Where you get this 3 pages from?

I guess you don't notice how insincere DS arguments are. Who argues that Tyrant has no mode of FTL travel? NO ONE unless they are trolling someone. I been here for years and EVERYONE assumes writer's intent is for Tyrant to be able to get around in space. Otherwise it would contradict the whole story.

Originally posted by h1a8
So you admit to flaming me?

So it's flaming to point out the complete ineptitude and hypocrisy of your arguments ?? Right.

Originally posted by h1a8
[B]
You have your facts mixed up.
DS stated that he can Bfr Mangog 200 light years away like he did Gladiator. I remembered the scene and that Thanos used the chair.
So the debate evolved to proving Thanos can OPEN PORTALS without the chair. DS didn't recall that he could at the time and started arguing the chair is standard equipment. Then once that wasn't working, he starting arguing that Thanos can teleport (everyone knows this). But being able to teleport oneself doesn't mean you can teleport others alone. Then DS found proof that Thanos can open portals without the chair. But he refused to post it and started trolling for pages.
almost everything you've said here is false.

1. DS said that he could BFR NOT mentioning chair onnpage 1

2. The chair didn't come up until toward the end of page 2

3. DS specifically stated on page 2 and 3 he was referring to mindset with Thanos in regards to Gladiator at which point he said Thanos can open portals without the chair and asked for proof Thanos needed the chair.

4. He asked you pointed questions that if you bother to look back actually point to the fact he did remember the story and Thanos opening portals in said story without the chair after it was destroyed. These pointed questions actually narrowed to specify the proofnhe offered on page 6

4. Ambient offered scans of Thanos BFRing without the chair on page 3. His first scan was actually opening a portal behind him just like you claimed he couldn't and another was the same scan I offered of Thanos pushing a button on his belt. I suppose now his clothes aren't standard gear huh???

5.You didn't offer your failed version of proof until page 4 when you talked about pushing a button on the chair. A whole page after proof was already offered showing Thanos didn't need the chair to open portals (showing just how poorly you follow an argument). DS actually rebuked Ambient for doing so with morenpointed statements alluding to the proof he offered.

I didn't ridicule anyone. You lost your marbles dude.
I gave proof. Logical proof.

You most certainly did rebuke Ambient for it taking to page 6 when he had already offered proof on page 3 one page after you asked for it.

Originally posted by h1a8
[B]Why is this thread 6 pages long? I wasn't asking for proof to argue. I was asking for proof so that I can accept the truth.
All you or Saint had to do was provide proof. You encourage his trolling.

So Thanos can bfr Mangog if he wanted to and therefore is greater than him.

So thread
Tyrant, Thanos, Mangog, Kurse
End of the thread

Originally posted by h1a8
[B]
1. Tyrant traveling from the far reaches of the universe (more than 47 billion light years)
2. Tyrant going to different star systems
Etc

There are plenty of characters (Herald level and above) that travel through space from star system to star system and never been stated to go FTL.

Is completely irrelevant. For 2 reasons
1. It doesn't answer DS' question of how he returns from dimensional BFR since travel at ftl speed doesn't change your dimension.
2. It doesn't return you to a battle to prevent a loss from BFR. A ring out is a victory.

Originally posted by h1a8
[B]
It took 6 pages to post proof. After 1 page (not even that) of me not posting a certain kind of proof the mod came in. 6 pages vs 1. How is that the same?

...........

Again I gave logical proof. 1 page didn't go by. Where you get this 3 pages from?


No it didn't. This is a complete lie ans missrepresentation of what has occured.

you asked on page 2.

On that same page DS asked a few pointed questions showing he knew that Thanos opened portals in the story the chair was destroyed after it was destroyed.

On page 3 (one page after you asked) Anbient offered the proof. DS rebuked him with more pointed questions nd ststements indicating he already had his scans lined up.

You posted your proof in rebuttal a page later almost 2 pages after DS asked for it. Then when Ambient offered more scans on page 6 and DS chimed in with all the scans he'd made pointed comments toward you called Ambient out for encouraging his trolling and for not offering scans earlier when he had already done so.

All the rest of your postings erroneous and irrelevant since we can see you can't even present the flow of what transpired in the thread accurately. Or maybe its just that you couldn't keep up with tàhe arguments presented or how they were done.

You attempted to present your beliefs as undisputed truth that "you knew". DS questioned you on this "knowledge" in a way showing to any who did know that he knew exactly where you were wrong. Yes DS deliberately dragged out offering proof every bit as long as you did (not longer). He did so to get you to dig your own hole deeper. The simple fact is up until page 7 that I have read DS has actually proven every point he made while every single point you made hasn't been proven to a point that it matters in the scope of the debate. DS never asked for proof Tyrant could go FTL, he asked for proof Turant could return from a BFR to prevent a forum win (a ten count). He even specified and asked for proof of return from dimensional BFR.

Then there is the whole different expectation of burden of proof you have for everyone else but you apparently get a side on.

Just because Tyrant is a former herald and heralds have the power to gor FTL and warp we must accept it for Tyrant without proof. But Thanos being the most powerful member of a race that has the inate power of teleportation and portal creation doesn't get the same nod. That's the point you missed in all you childish carry-on. You expect a greater burden of proof from everyone else than you are prepared to offer yourself.

@Beatboks:

You also forget 'writer's intent' where Thanos has his left index finger up which is apparently all the proof one needs that he needs his chair.....

Originally posted by beatboks
So it's flaming to point out the complete ineptitude and hypocrisy of your arguments ?? Right.

almost everything you've said here is false.

1. DS said that he could BFR NOT mentioning chair onnpage 1

2. The chair didn't come up until toward the end of page 2

3. DS specifically stated on page 2 and 3 he was referring to mindset with Thanos in regards to Gladiator at which point he said Thanos can open portals without the chair and asked for proof Thanos needed the chair.

4. He asked you pointed questions that if you bother to look back actually point to the fact he did remember the story and Thanos opening portals in said story without the chair after it was destroyed. These pointed questions actually narrowed to specify the proofnhe offered on page 6

4. Ambient offered scans of Thanos BFRing without the chair on page 3. His first scan was actually opening a portal behind him just like you claimed he couldn't and another was the same scan I offered of Thanos pushing a button on his belt. I suppose now his clothes aren't standard gear huh???

5.You didn't offer your failed version of proof until page 4 when you talked about pushing a button on the chair. A whole page after proof was already offered showing Thanos didn't need the chair to open portals (showing just how poorly you follow an argument). DS actually rebuked Ambient for doing so with morenpointed statements alluding to the proof he offered.

I didn't ridicule anyone. You lost your marbles dude.
I gave proof. Logical proof.

You most certainly did rebuke Ambient for it taking to page 6 when he had already offered proof on page 3 one page after you asked for it.

Is completely irrelevant. For 2 reasons
1. It doesn't answer DS' question of how he returns from dimensional BFR since travel at ftl speed doesn't change your dimension.
2. It doesn't return you to a battle to prevent a loss from BFR. A ring out is a victory.

No it didn't. This is a complete lie ans missrepresentation of what has occured.

you asked on page 2.

On that same page DS asked a few pointed questions showing he knew that Thanos opened portals in the story the chair was destroyed after it was destroyed.

On page 3 (one page after you asked) Anbient offered the proof. DS rebuked him with more pointed questions nd ststements indicating he already had his scans lined up.

You posted your proof in rebuttal a page later almost 2 pages after DS asked for it. Then when Ambient offered more scans on page 6 and DS chimed in with all the scans he'd made pointed comments toward you called Ambient out for encouraging his trolling and for not offering scans earlier when he had already done so.

All the rest of your postings erroneous and irrelevant since we can see you can't even present the flow of what transpired in the thread accurately. Or maybe its just that you couldn't keep up with tàhe arguments presented or how they were done.

You attempted to present your beliefs as undisputed truth that "you knew". DS questioned you on this "knowledge" in a way showing to any who did know that he knew exactly where you were wrong. Yes DS deliberately dragged out offering proof every bit as long as you did (not longer). He did so to get you to dig your own hole deeper. The simple fact is up until page 7 that I have read DS has actually proven every point he made while every single point you made hasn't been proven to a point that it matters in the scope of the debate. DS never asked for proof Tyrant could go FTL, he asked for proof Turant could return from a BFR to prevent a forum win (a ten count). He even specified and asked for proof of return from dimensional BFR.

Then there is the whole different expectation of burden of proof you have for everyone else but you apparently get a side on.

Just because Tyrant is a former herald and heralds have the power to gor FTL and warp we must accept it for Tyrant without proof. But Thanos being the most powerful member of a race that has the inate power of teleportation and portal creation doesn't get the same nod. That's the point you missed in all you childish carry-on. You expect a greater burden of proof from everyone else than you are prepared to offer yourself.


1. Irrelevant as I didn't challenge him until he mentioned Gladiator.
2. Correct. DS could have shown Thanos opening portal without chair on page 2. He simply didn't remember. That's why he argued chair is standard equipment. Because he had no alternative argument.
3. He use the feat as BOTH capability AND mindset. You are falsely assuming he used it only for mindset. That's why he argued that chair is standard in the beginning (until he found other proof).
4. This was after he discovered such showings, not before. He also refused to post proof and trolled until page 6.
4. Correct. And I accepted the fact that Thanos can BFR after Ambient posted. DS scans were not needed. Thread was officially over. DS baited me about Tyrant with insincere argument.
5. But that wasn't proof yet. First scan is not proof. Other scans were Thanos teleporting, not opening portals like in the Gladiator scene.
So the chair argument was still on.
6. That's not ridicule. Are you stupid? Why should it take 6 pages to post proof of a claim? Why troll?
7. But Thanos is only proven to dimensional travel with portals. Not with the point and shoot type of Bfr. Tyrant isn't guaranteed to go through one of Thanos portals. This is my 3rd time telling you this.

Two wrongs don't make a right though. If I was wrong then why DS wasn't? You not pointing out his wrong. Either say you both were wrong or you are bias and now have no credibility.

Lastly, your low IQ is showing.
It is extremely reasonably (and necessary) for a Herald (and Tyrant) to have a FTL mode of travel in order for the story to make sense.
It is not necessary for Thanos to be able to open portals with innate power (teleport yes though). Now If all eternals can do such things then definitely I would have given Thanos the nod. But all externals can't do such. Tbh I don't know of any who can open portals with only innate power (teleport yes).

Originally posted by h1a8

Lastly, your low IQ is showing.
This is the thing, right? h1 is dumb and lazy, but also a narcissist. Everything on KMC is an attempt to assert his intelligence and look clever while stubbornly doing zero work to back up his point.

For 17 years he's been self assured that he can just talk his way around posting scans because he thinks that he is smarter than other people.

Originally posted by Smurph
This is the thing, right? h1 is dumb and lazy, but also a narcissist. Everything on KMC is an attempt to assert his intelligence and look clever while stubbornly doing zero work to back up his point.

For 17 years he's been self assured that he can just talk his way around posting scans because he thinks that he is smarter than other people.

Writer intent is clear, though. WHY ELSE WOULD THANOS BE SHOWN WITH HIS FINGER UP IN THE AIR?????

Any reasonable person (who doesn't know comics) would KNOW the truth, that he's operating sci-fi Eternal technology like we do phones. No other proof needed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Writer intent is clear, though. WHY ELSE WOULD THANOS BE SHOWN WITH HIS FINGER UP IN THE AIR?????

Any reasonable person (who doesn't know comics) would KNOW the truth, that he's operating sci-fi Eternal technology like we do phones. No other proof needed.

1 finger.

h1.

1.

Look into it.

Originally posted by Smurph
This is the thing, right? h1 is dumb and lazy, but also a narcissist. Everything on KMC is an attempt to assert his intelligence and look clever while stubbornly doing zero work to back up his point.

For 17 years he's been self assured that he can just talk his way around posting scans because he thinks that he is smarter than other people.