Originally posted by ODG
^ And Hercules was depowered as Sebastian Shaw literally states, so???What... mortal Hercules losing to Sebastian Shaw is a knock on Hercules' fighting prowess?
Would you guys give Daredevil crap for losing to Sebastian Shaw???
Herc still had quite a few superhuman feats despite said depowerment.
Not to mention that his magical gear made up for it.
So yes, quite pathetic performance from Herc, but we're all used to piss-poor Olympians and Asgardians on this forum.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWMaybe in his previous depowerment... but Sebastian Shaw literally states that Hercules was "barely stronger than a normal man".
Herc still had quite a few superhuman feats despite said depowerment.Not to mention that his magical gear made up for it.
So yes, quite pathetic performance from Herc, but we're all used to piss-poor Olympians and Asgardians on this forum.
And from what I remember of the concurrent run of Herc, there weren't really any enhanced, much less superhuman, feats I can recall. He was completely mortal.
Originally posted by ODG
Maybe in his previous depowerment... but Sebastian Shaw literally states that Hercules was "barely stronger than a normal man".And from what I remember of the concurrent run of Herc, there weren't really any enhanced, much less superhuman, feats I can recall. He was completely mortal.
See, you're wrong here.
It was just far less obvious than in the "classic" Mortal Herc's case (when he was still operating as a metahuman 24/7, just less powerful than his immortal incarnation), but he did somehow access his "godly status" a few times to perform the feats requiring super-strength or other supernatural qualities.
To this day, there is no Herc version that was 100% humanized/depowered completely. Dude always "cheats".
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWEven if I were to give your assertion full weight and credibility, how does that bear at all during the Sebastian Shaw fight?
See, you're wrong here.It was just far less obvious than in the "classic" Mortal Herc's case (when he was still operating as a metahuman 24/7, just less powerful than his immortal incarnation), but he did somehow access his "godly status" a few times to perform the feats requiring super-strength or other supernatural qualities.
To this day, there is no Herc version that was 100% humanized/depowered completely. Dude always "cheats".
Did mortal Hercules cheat by no-selling lightning when he fought Sebastian Shaw?
Or are you just trying to sell a complete non-sequitur?
Not an assertion, a simple fact. Go through his appearances and find out yourself. You used to do that before you became senile, however I believe you still have some fuel left in the tank.
Matters a lot, just like his magical equipment matters, too.
And yes, it would be pretty pathetic if Murdock failed with such gear & assist, not gonna lie.
Good thing he's actually competent, unlike the so-called "gods".
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWWhat is this random personal sh1t? Wolverine-related butthurt? Whatever. I used to take these opportunites to dress posters down for devolving into utter buffoonery.
Not an assertion, a simple fact. Go through his appearances and find out yourself. You used to do that before you became senile, however I believe you still have some fuel left in the tank.Matters a lot, just like his magical equipment matters, too.
And yes, it would be pretty pathetic if Murdock failed with such gear & assist, not gonna lie.
Good thing he's actually competent, unlike the so-called "gods".
But I'll try to be nicer and simply leave you with this (richly) deserved gif: