Silver Surfer Vs Superman 2022 edition.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Volcanoes are the kryptonite to Surfer along with rocks.

Lifting up a few rocks exhausted him lol

Originally posted by abhilegend
Spider-Man vs Silver Surfer with carnage symbiote

Surfer in hand to hand is mundane -- good thing he has the sentient board to help him. Similar to GLs and their rings -- as I said, somebody like John Stewart is a good match. The Black Adam fight is also good to talk about -- anything at this thread, or even magnitudes below it, is just too much.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They don't have Swiss Army Knives doe.

Batman's suit can survive re-entry from the Moon, lmao.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They don't have Swiss Army Knives doe.

Batman's suit can survive re-entry from the Moon, lmao.

Batman's suit is Iron Man armor, just made of tight

Originally posted by Philosophía
You want to get me going with rocks again 😂

👆

Surfer in hand to hand is mundane -- good thing he has the sentient board to help him. Similar to GLs and their rings -- as I said, somebody like John Stewart is a good match. The Black Adam fight is also good to talk about -- anything at this thread, or even magnitudes below it, is just too much.

i love how in comics surfer struggles from slow moving carnage and hulk

however in this battle he just gonna turn into efficient full capacity godlike being creating kryptonite first second of the match

yet at the same time his opponent who has ftl speed and attosecond operation time would just stand there and let surfer magically pull kryptonite radiation out of his ass
superman has to fight like a retard while surfer gonna do things he's never done before in comics

the double standard is astounishing

Originally posted by abhilegend
Runner is also weaker than Superman in pretty much every criteria.

It wasn't the gauntlet. It was time gem on its own. Glad to know that you understand Surfer can't move in time stop.

Shadow Dragon is weaker than Surfer in every area and he didn't have a gem when he fought Superman who had to up his speed to tag him.

Originally posted by MrMind
i love how in comics surfer struggles from slow moving carnage and hulk

however in this battle he just gonna turn into efficient full capacity godlike being creating kryptonite first second of the match

yet at the same time his opponent who has ftl speed and attosecond operation time would just stand there and let surfer magically pull kryptonite radiation out of his ass
superman has to fight like a retard while surfer gonna do things he's never done before in comics

the double standard is astounishing

Don't look at me you sexy single beast.

@ Phil, the only chance Surfer has against John in my opinion is in a team book.

Yeah, John is very competent. And a great tactician due to his background -- he'd quite possibly overwhelm him.

But I don't want to go lower, tbh.

Originally posted by carver9
Shadow Dragon is weaker than Surfer in every area and he didn't have a gem when he fought Superman who had to up his speed to tag him.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Yeah, John is very competent. And a great tactician due to his background -- he'd quite possibly overwhelm him.

But I don't want to go lower, tbh.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Sees kryptonite radiation blast coming and evades it with superspeed. Superman: The Man of Steel 38
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SeesBlast.jpg

Even after being hit with kryptonite by the battle ship powered with nearly all of it from earth, he is still capable of seeing the kryptonite radiation “lance out” towards him and avoid it. Superman Up Up and Away
https://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/kradiationlance4.jpg

Superman, who was very weakened by kryptonite, moves fast enough to stop the kryptonite in wavelength form, Action Comics 854
https://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/kryptonitewavelength1.jpg
https://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/kryptonitewavelength2.jpg

But these scenes are less impressive w/ context of the pages just before and after the ones you chose to scan.

In your 1st scan, Superman aim-dodges Conduit's first blast sure... but the next page he starts getting drained when he goes in close. Superman realizes he's made a mistake but still goes on to outright get blasted into the ground to end the issue.

You also reference with the 2nd scan that Superman had been hit by Kryptonite radiation beams (a whole bunch actually) just prior to that scene. And within your own scan Superman gets smashed by a Kryptonite-laced mech physically. Superman is forced to kamikaze torpedo straight through and takes Lex out of the thing but Superman's completely depowered and has to have a H2H fist-fight w/ Luthor on a beach.

Same with the 3rd-4th scans given Superman is still winded from getting his butt handed to him during a previous scuffle where Superman had actually prepped with radiation-proof spray polymer but still ended up succumbing to kryptonite radiation before being saved by Krypto and Jimmy Olsen who leeched the kryptonite radiation out, so... y'know...

I mean... I could post the scans of context but you know the issue #s so you should be well aware. Stick in Silver Surfer where Conduit, Lex w/ Kryptonian ship/mech and Kryptonite Man were. Now leave out the conveniently placed lead items. Remove any helper allies... and the results for Superman would be far worse.

Granted, Superman should likely treat Silver Surfer with more caution than he did those guys but... as I've said before, a normal human can give Superman fits when exploiting his weaknesses. Hand that over to a High Herald of Galactus and it becomes a massive problem.

Originally posted by ODG
To be clear, I never doubted Superman could dodge laser beams or reflect laser beams w/ conveniently placed lead-glass surfaces. The latter situation probably not relevant in this thread given most default battlegrounds are featureless landscapes.

But these scenes are less impressive w/ context of the pages just before and after the ones you chose to scan.

In your 1st scan, Superman aim-dodges Conduit's first blast sure... but the next page he starts getting drained when he goes in close. Superman realizes he's made a mistake but still goes on to outright get blasted into the ground to end the issue.

You also reference with the 2nd scan that Superman had been hit by Kryptonite radiation beams (a whole bunch actually) just prior to that scene. And within your own scan Superman gets smashed by a Kryptonite-laced mech physically. Superman is forced to kamikaze torpedo straight through and takes Lex out of the thing but Superman's completely depowered and has to have a H2H fist-fight w/ Luthor on a beach.

Same with the 3rd-4th scans given Superman is still winded from getting his butt handed to him during a previous scuffle where Superman had actually prepped with radiation-proof spray polymer but still ended up succumbing to kryptonite radiation before being saved by Krypto and Jimmy Olsen who leeched the kryptonite radiation out, so... y'know...

I mean... I could post the scans of context but you know the issue #s so you should be well aware. Stick in Silver Surfer where Conduit, Lex w/ Kryptonian ship/mech and Kryptonite Man were. Now leave out the conveniently placed lead items. Remove any helper allies... and the results for Superman would be far worse.

Granted, Superman should likely treat Silver Surfer with more caution than he did those guys but... as I've said before, a normal human can give Superman fits when exploiting his weaknesses. Hand that over to a High Herald of Galactus and it becomes a massive problem.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
G'nort or Kilowog 😖hifty:

is gnort that dog or squirrel

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So Superman saw and avoided/blocked kryptonite radiation, no?

You want me to post the scans showing the context? I dunno. I wouldn't if I were in your shoes.

Originally posted by ODG
In your scans, not until it was too late and he either lost the fight or would've lost if there weren't outside interference and/or convenient lead materials weren't lying around, sure.

You want me to post the scans showing the context? I dunno. I wouldn't if I were in your shoes.

So a weakened Superman can avoid/block kryptonite radiation, but previously he can't....sounds like previous showings are PIS to me

Well, you asked me did Superman avoid/block kryptonite radition in the past? And I posted he did( even in weakened state).

Also, I'm wondering the same thing. Has Surfer ever done this...when he faces a guy who is as fast and as strong as Superman?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Shh, Surfer is gonna create kryptonite radiation out of his ass so Superman never sees it coming.

Even goober, the biggest proponent of such a tactic conceded Surfer has never done something like that but dumbo here knows better.

I have no problem saying that such a specific scenario thing hasn't come up before man. You act like I'm dodging a point, I'm not.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ask dumbo about three separate examples of creating different radiation from an alternate universe by utilising cosmic awareness lol

Since he looks pretty slow in some cases.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Surfer cannot overcome time being stopped -- as shown when time was actually frozen, and needed the Living Tribunal to save him:

The Runner [who took Surfer's lunch money]:

Is slower than Makkari moving at the speed of light:

And while the cropped silver age panels are good for a trolling, they show the board moving fast to the destination and Doom seeing him coming in, as seen when non-cropped panels are posted.

In essence -- in terms of combat movement, Makkari [Lightspeed] > Runner >>> Surfer.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Spider-Man vs Silver Surfer with carnage symbiote

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Stick in Superman where Spider-Man were, I wonder how this fight would go.....

obviously superman gonna stand there and wait for surfer to figure out he's vulnerable to kryptonite

^ Superman's kryptonite weakness isn't exactly a secret. Hell, people use the word "kryptonite" more colloquially as a term for exploitable weakness than for the actual mineral. And if you think Surfer wouldn't know this via common knowledge, Cosmic Awareness is a thing.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Including the Conduit scan?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So a weakened Superman can avoid/block kryptonite radiation, but previously he can't....sounds like previous showings are PIS to me

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Well, you asked me did Superman avoid/block kryptonite radition in the past? And I posted he did( even in weakened state).

Because the context surrounding those scans shows that those are probably really bad examples to rely on here. But I haven't read your participation in this thread with other posters, so for all I know you're advocating for Silver Surfer.

Like, if Ambient knew about these issues, I'm sure he'd be posting the pages before and after your scans gleefully. Maybe that's your master plan? I dunno.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Superman's kryptonite weakness isn't exactly a secret. Hell, people use the word "kryptonite" more colloquially as a term for exploitable weakness than for the actual mineral. And if you think Surfer wouldn't know this via common knowledge, Cosmic Awareness is a thing. I don't have access to Superman vol.2. #94 where that Conduit storyline continues. I fully expect Superman may just be playing possum at the end of Man of Steel #38 but the synopsis I've read of the next chapter suggests Superman ultimately uses more lead metal. Again, not exactly probative here in a featureless battleground. It consistently happens in comics... not exactly PIS anymore. And, well... I mean you handpicked each of those scans yourself, bro. I had nothing to do with it. Yes, I did. I'm not trying to shoot the messenger. I just don't think those scans prove what you think they prove.

Because the context surrounding those scans shows that those are probably really bad examples to rely on here. But I haven't read your participation in this thread with other posters, so for all I know you're advocating for Silver Surfer.

Like,. if Ambient knew about these issues, I'm sure he'd be posting the pages before and after your scans gleefully. Maybe that's your master plan? I dunno.

Originally posted by ODG
In your scans, not until it was too late and he either lost the fight or would've lost if there weren't outside interference and/or convenient lead materials weren't lying around, sure.

Flash tagged by human level opponents also consistently happens in comics....is Flash human level speed IYO?

So....you asked me to provide example of Superman sees kryptonite raditation and avoids/blocks it. And I provided...I fail to see what I'm failing to provide here?