i dont know how anyone would take offense of being called incel
i got 99 problems but a bi tch ain't one
but seriously i'm in sales and the daily stress is so heavy you don't even think about poontang anymore
like future said, chase a check never chase a *****
I used to troll about being an incel here, but on a serious note, guys in modern time need to realize you are fuked in western society, start watching jordan peterson and you will see things much more clearly
Originally posted by ODG
Best impression of an incel by a gay man, for sure then.So, he's a gay man who's just mysogynistic. That was one of the labels I initially used. Ok. 👆
Says the person who denies adult women agency, does not believe they are competent to make their own decisions, and shifts the responsibility for their decisions onto others. You are a misogynist masquerading as a feminist. Just like the incels who have deluded themselves into believing they are "nice guys."
Originally posted by NemeBro
Adam Poe is the gayest dude this side of Lemon Party. 😂He's a gigantic literal homo, which is why you look so stupid accusing him of being an incel to anyone in the know(and before you say gays can be incels no not really, sex comes much easier to gay men than straight men).
How embarrassing for him.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Rob's best kmc friend does that all the time and Rob doesn't complain somehow mmm
Whirly's about as much a pedo as you are an actual rapist. So same reason I don't call you out on your pro-rape comments**, because it's just shitposting and has nothing real behind it and I know you're a decent person.
**Granted, a shit-ton of your pro-rape posts vanished when this original thread got nuked.
Originally posted by Adam_PoEThis is true. I didn't think gay men could so mirror incel philosophy by being so utterly misogynistic. My eyes are opened. 👆
How embarrassing for him.
Originally posted by Adam_PoEGiven that this conversation started with Warren Ellis, just say it out loud:
Says the person who denies adult women agency, does not believe they are competent to make their own decisions, and shifts the responsibility for their decisions onto others. You are a misogynist masquerading as a feminist. Just like the incels who have deluded themselves into believing they are "nice guys."
You blame the 50+ young women and not Warren Ellis.
Either, or.
Originally posted by ODG
This is true. I didn't think gay men could so mirror incel philosophy by being so utterly misogynistic. My eyes are opened. 👆
Which is more humiliating: realizing you thoroughly embarrassed yourself for several pages, or doubling-down in a desperate attempt to save face and pretend you had the last word?
Originally posted by ODG
Given that this conversation started with Warren Ellis, just say it out loud:You blame the 50+ young women and not Warren Ellis.
Either, or.
It is not an either/or situation. Unless there are competing claims, multiple things can simultaneously be true.
He can be a dishonest and disloyal person who had multiple relationships simultaneously, and they can also be grown adults who made bad choices for their own reasons.
People do not magically become blameless victims every time something does not work out in their favor.
Relationships between adults are mutually-defined. If a party does not like the terms, she has the right to request changes, or to end the relationship, because it no longer meets her needs.
If she chooses not to do that, then she has accepted the unfavorable terms as a trade-off for whatever perceived benefit she receives for continuing the relationship as-is.
In any of those cases, she is an equal participant. She is a capable adult who did a cost/benefit analysis, and made the choice she thought was best. And if her choice turned out to not be the best, then she exercised bad judgment, and will learn to make better choices in the future.
But what she is not is a child who needs to be protected by society, because her inferior nature makes her easily manipulated, which is your view. But tell us more about how your paternalistic view of women does not make you the incel misogynist you claim everyone else to be.
Originally posted by Adam_PoEIt really is though.
It is not an either/or situation.
You have a group of over 60 people who wrote a collective statement saying that they were each the victim of "Warren Ellis using his celebrity status and vast public platform as catalyst and shield to manipulate and groom targets under false pretenses, and to coerce private pornography and sexual exchanges."
Then you have Adam_PoE saying "adults can't be groomed; adults just have bad judgment"
So at the end of the day, what you're claiming that it's misogynistic to just... believe them.
Originally posted by Smurph
Eh, there are a lot of sad, lonely, angry gay dudes out there.
There are a lot of sad, lonely, angry "people" indeed. Your sentence seems a little homophobic and generalised, and we wouldn't want that, would we?
Originally posted by SmurphIdk what Adam's particular problem is, but if he posts in this thread it's always to assert a snarky but simplistic lecture.
Snark doesn't work if your point isn't well thought out. You just look confidently dumb.
Way to flame Adam.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!I responded to a post saying that gay men, specifically, cannot be incels. Which is why my post refers to gay men, specifically.
There are a lot of sad, lonely, angry "people" indeed. Your sentence seems a little homophobic and generalised, and we wouldn't want that, would we?
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!I called Adam's lectures snarky but simplistic, and they are. Compared to the posters crying misogynist at each other, I'm pretty civil.
Way to flame Adam.
And compared to you, I'm an upstanding forum citizen.
Originally posted by SmurphThat post wasn't from Adam, so why flame him and why use dog whistle terminology linking gay men to anger etc. As others have said you're a cheer leader, good friend and enabler... you be you. 🙂
I responded to a post saying that gay men, specifically, cannot be incels. Which is why my post refers to gay men, specifically.I called Adam's lectures snarky but simplistic, and they are. Compared to the posters crying misogynist at each other, I'm pretty civil.
And compared to you, I'm an upstanding forum citizen.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!lol nice try, but none of that happened. The post exchange speaks for itself.
That post wasn't from Adam, so why flame him and why use dog whistle terminology linking gay men to anger etc. As others have said you're a cheer leader, good friend and enabler... you be you. 🙂
You know, when you claim that toxicity is stupid, and then your very next post tries to drum up some toxicity, you're just... calling yourself stupid?
Originally posted by SmurphJust highlighting your oft observed catalytic behaviour. Like I said, you be you. 🙂
lol nice try, but none of that happened. The post exchange speaks for itself.You know, when you claim that toxicity is stupid, and then your very next post tries to drum up some toxicity, you're just... calling yourself stupid?
I don't think Adam is being as disingenuous as he is being labelled.
It's true that there seems to have been an imbalance of power within the relationship between the alleged victims and Ellis, but that also does not make them completely powerless, which I think Adam is trying to explain, snark or otherwise notwithstanding (I don't personally notice it, but I'm not here nearly as often as others).
Since the #metoo thing, there have been a lot of allegations that run the gamut form truly horrific to what I would constitute as a bad date. I think it's important to parse out the individual actions rather than slap a label quickly and without second thought one way or the other.
Essentially I'm a dirty fence sitter that everyone hates right now.
In regards to Ellis specifically, I think I – personally – have a very easy time separating art from artist and also happen to think that companies need to develop a stronger backbone rather than kowtowing to the whims of terminally online activists, but that's just me. IF what he did was horrific, and it has been proven in a way more than just allegations (what that is can be nebulous and I certainly don't want to be the decider on what constitutes this) then by all means rip him from his projects. I see things like Justin Roiland having accusations levied and then get completely dropped, but that didn't stop the mob from completely ruining his career. That's something I wouldn't want to see happen to me from a complicated relationship, nor would I wish it on others.