Originally posted by ODG
I'd rather you continue to argue how once you're 20-years-old, you aren't a victim, you are a participant. Just proclaim you are the defender of all the Harvey Weinsteins and Bryan Singers in the world.
Adults understand that when you choose a behavior, you also choose its consequences. If you do not want to endure those consequences, then you do not choose the behavior. Simple as that.
A 20-year-old can vote, hold public office, own a firearm, serve in the miliary, and consent to sex. They are certainly mature enough to make informed decisions about sex and relationships. They are bound to make mistakes, because wisdom comes from experience. But there is a difference between being an actual victim of coercion or assault, and being a victim of your own bad choices. One is actionable, and the other is not. You seem to have difficulty understanding the difference.
Originally posted by ODG
Look, you disgusting little b1tch... stand by your proclamations and just double down on what you initially said so we can have a conversation. If you don't, no surprise. We both know this thread isn't going to go well for you.And homosexuality isn't an excuse for misogyny. In fact, it makes you look doubly worse.
50+ young women should be to blame. Warren Ellis should be not. That was your stance, after all right?
You sound insecure. If the thread was going poorly for me, then it would be evident to all, and there would be no need for you to point it out. That you feel the need to do so suggest that you feel the thread is going poorly for you, and you want me to cease responding. Hence, your pathetic little jabs.
Moeover, since I am not attracted to women, I do not objectify them, I do not paternalize them, and I do not idealize them. I treat them like actual people. And that is the difference between us.
I view women as competent, capable, and as having agency. They do not need to be protected from themselves, least of all by men. You, on the other hand, think supporting women means viewing them as inferiors who are not responsible for their own choices.
You are a walking "nice guy" incel stereotype, who proclaims he loves women, but actually hates them. And they can smell it on you a mile away.
Furthermore, quote where I stated Ellis is blameless. We will all wait. That is just a Straw Man you constructed. You want me to defend a position I did not take to deflect from your inability to retort the one I did make. Nice try.