Originally posted by Adam_PoESounds exactly like a male misogynist who has not (and will not) comprehend the imbalanced sexist dynamic that young females face in pretty much every industry.
Adults understand that when you choose a behavior, you also choose its consequences. If you do not want to endure those consequences, then you do not choose the behavior. Simple as that.
Originally posted by Adam_PoEBut they cannot buy alcohol. In any State. Maybe if you don't disgust/repel every young woman you encounter in life, you might actually understand that young women confront different problems than young males.
A 20-year-old can vote, hold public office, own a firearm, serve in the miliary, and consent to sex. They are certainly mature enough to make informed decisions about sex and relationships. They are bound to make mistakes, because wisdom comes from experience. But there is a difference between being an actual victim of coercion or assault, and being a victim of your own bad choices. One is actionable, and the other is not. You seem to have difficulty understanding the difference.
Originally posted by Adam_PoEI'll take insecure over being a an incel, misogynist, rapist, or creep. After all, those were the options I provided in my first reply. We've apparently eliminated incel from the equation given that you enjoy massive amounts of self-proclaimed gay sex.
You sound insecure.
Good for you. You ain't a lesbian. So you ain't a woman. And all your arguments might as well come from Harvey Weinstein's mouth.
Go ahead and be proud of that. I shall not label you as an incel anymore. I shall instead label you as Adam_PoE-Weinstein.
^ I think the main point of contention is whether younger women like Warren Ellis' victims have just as much agency as "full grown adults" (whatever that's supposed to imply) when pressured into quid pro quo sex and are equal participants as industry veterans.
Correct me if I am wrong but Spacey struck me as being accused of just being horny and not using his status to promise career advancement. Singer definitely fits that description but he was dealing with underage boys and impressionable young men. So he's arguably worse.
Either way, the discussion meandered from the original premise. Warren Ellis is a creep or he's not because y'know, wahmen.
Originally posted by ODGWhat was the explicit accusation? That might help clear muddied waters. I'm too lazy to find it myself.
^ I think the main point of contention is whether younger women like Warren Ellis' victims have just as much agency as "full grown adults" (whatever that's supposed to imply) when pressured into quid pro quo sex and are equal participants as industry veterans.Correct me if I am wrong but Spacey struck me as being accused of just being horny and not using his status to promise career advancement. Singer definitely fits that description but he was dealing with underage boys and impressionable young men. So he's arguably worse.
Either way, the discussion meandered from the original premise. Warren Ellis is a creep or he's not because y'know, wahmen.
Originally posted by ODG
^ I think the main point of contention is whether younger women like Warren Ellis' victims have just as much agency as "full grown adults" (whatever that's supposed to imply) when pressured into quid pro quo sex and are equal participants as industry veterans.Correct me if I am wrong but Spacey struck me as being accused of just being horny and not using his status to promise career advancement. Singer definitely fits that description but he was dealing with underage boys and impressionable young men. So he's arguably worse.
Either way, the discussion meandered from the original premise. Warren Ellis is a creep or he's not because y'know, wahmen.
Those young men just made bad choices👆
Originally posted by BlightAgainst Warren Ellis? See below from the 50+ women:
What was the explicit accusation? That might help clear muddied waters. I'm too lazy to find it myself.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWThat is my understanding also.
Spacey got acquitted of all charges, didn't he?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Let's stick to Warren Ellis before dealing with Kevin Spacey. Warren Ellis is far more relevant to a Comic Vs Forum, after all.
Those young men just made bad choices
Originally posted by RobtardI'm not trying to defend Kevin Spacey. But this discussion don't need to encompass Hollywood industry creeps in addition to comic industry creeps. Let's circle back to Warren Ellis, yea?
Kevin Spacey was accused of trying to have sex with a then 14yo Anthony Rapp. That's not a 'young adult making a bad choice', that's grooming and attempted rape of a child.Should be noted that Kevin Spacey was acquitted of those deplorable charges.