So apparently collective guilt is ok sometimes;
Anyone else see a problem with this?
I mean, they keep using Germans as an example, but who really holds all Germans accountable to this day for what the Nazi's did?
But if someone points out what Jews do in Hollywood, suddenly they're all individuals and collectivism doesn't exist?
I know this is the kind of shit Stilt and Smurph and probably PR sharpen their knives over, but all I'm saying is there's way too much bandwagoning when it comes to social politics, and I hate it. You guys play follow the leader just like everyone else does, getting a real genuine opinion from anyone is impossible because no one wants to be "that guy".
Originally posted by cdtmlol what the ****
I mean, they keep using Germans as an example, but who really holds all Germans accountable to this day for what the Nazi's did?But if someone points out what Jews do in Hollywood, suddenly they're all individuals and collectivism doesn't exist?
Just, like, back up for a moment and clarify this analogy
Nazis are to Germany what Jews are to Hollywood
What the actual **** does that mean
Originally posted by cdtmI'll give you this cd, your trolling sometimes amuses me.
So apparently collective guilt is ok sometimes;Anyone else see a problem with this?
I mean, they keep using Germans as an example, but who really holds all Germans accountable to this day for what the Nazi's did?
But if someone points out what Jews do in Hollywood, suddenly they're all individuals and collectivism doesn't exist?
I know this is the kind of shit Stilt and Smurph and probably PR sharpen their knives over, but all I'm saying is there's way too much bandwagoning when it comes to social politics, and I hate it. You guys play follow the leader just like everyone else does, getting a real genuine opinion from anyone is impossible because no one wants to be "that guy".
https://www.timesofisrael.com/did-nazis-run-the-jews-who-run-hollywood/
Pretty sure you paraphrased a David Chapplelle (sp) line. Rather the Harvard and other University Professor's books. But I could be wrong. I get your game, set the big mouth up to say something then laugh at them for not knowing what you really meant. It's funny...
Originally posted by Smurph
lol what the ****Just, like, back up for a moment and clarify this analogy
Nazis are to Germany what Jews are to Hollywood
What the actual **** does that mean
No one is drawing analogies Smurph. Stop reading into everything I say.
All I said, very clearly I thought, was that there is an argument all Russians share guilt for Putins crime of aggression against Ukraine. The article used collective German guilt to justify this stance. It stressed how even today, all Germans feel guilty, so we're talking original sin here.
The "Russian collective guilt" has its own Wikipedia article, meaning it isn't only this one writer who feels this way.
I personally find ideas of collective guilt repugnant, but I ask why some are collectively guilty yet others are not. Blacks shoot up a neighborhood in a gang war, not guilty, white militias shoot up a store, all whites are guilty.
Jews come in my argument because deny it all you want, a disproportionate amount of them are in media and banking and publishing and such, that's just a fact. But no collective guilt for banking crisis's, right?
And before you go at me for anti-Semitic shit, I don't WANT to blame all Jews for shit. Not my point.
Basically I'm pissed collective guilt is even an argument. Why not blame all Japanese for Pearl Harbor then? The camps were justified amiright?
Originally posted by cdtm
No one is drawing analogies Smurph. Stop reading into everything I say.All I said, very clearly I thought, was that there is an argument all Russians share guilt for Putins crime of aggression against Ukraine. The article used collective German guilt to justify this stance. It stressed how even today, all Germans feel guilty, so we're talking original sin here.
The "Russian collective guilt" has its own Wikipedia article, meaning it isn't only this one writer who feels this way.
I personally find ideas of collective guilt repugnant, but I ask why some are collectively guilty yet others are not. Blacks shoot up a neighborhood in a gang war, not guilty, white militias shoot up a store, all whites are guilty.
Jews come in my argument because deny it all you want, a disproportionate amount of them are in media and banking and publishing and such, that's just a fact. But no collective guilt for banking crisis's, right?
And before you go at me for anti-Semitic shit, I don't WANT to blame all Jews for shit. Not my point.
Basically I'm pissed collective guilt is even an argument. Why not blame all Japanese for Pearl Harbor then? The camps were justified amiright?
Originally posted by Smurph
Let's try something different. Just a little exercise on an unrelated topic to see if we're on the same page about the basics.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/03/opinion/metoo-teachers-students-consent.html
If so, there is a case to be made that even genuinely consensual professor-student relationships, while not instances of sexual harassment, can constitute sexual discrimination, outlawed by Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972. According to the conventional legal understanding, discriminating “on the basis of sex” involves treating women and men differently. Clearly, the male professor who has sexual relationships only with women students does just this. Bisexuality poses a problem for this understanding of sex discrimination. (Can it be sex discrimination if a boss hits on both his female and his male subordinates?) This is one reason to favor an alternative understanding, sometimes invoked by the courts, of what it means to discriminate “on the basis of sex.” For Catharine MacKinnon, Lin Farley and other feminist pioneers of sexual harassment theory, the essence of sex discrimination lies not in differential treatment but in treatment that reproduces inequality. Take the boss who hits on his secretary, a woman. The problem isn’t that the boss doesn’t also hit on his male underlings but that his unwanted sexual advances, as Ms. MacKinnon puts it, “express and reinforce the social inequality of women to men.” The same, I think, can be said of some consensual professor-student relationships.
Alright, this reads like pretty standard feminist rhetoric about power dynamics. My main problem here is the idea that actual law should operate differently between whether a male professor hits on a female student, or a female hits on a male, or a male hits on a male or a woman hits on a woman or any other mix that may exist.
Do you agree with that much?
I feel grrrreeeat right now!
This guy I went to school with who was a Never Trumper and laughed at anyone who watched Fox News is into this YouTuber I sent him called The Liberal Hivemind.
Sent this half tongue in cheek thinking he'd never go for it, and he's been texting back things like "OMG did you see the latest show?? He makes SO MUCH SENSE!"
I have totally corrupted another person, before you know it he'll be a Truth Social member and watching Newsmax. 😂
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66069080
France has been rocked by three nights of unrest after Nahel M, 17, was killed as he drove away from a traffic stop.More than 915 arrests were made on Thursday night alone, officials said, and the government announced it would deploy 45,000 police officers in a bid to contain further violence.
Mr Macron said that about a third of those arrested for rioting were "young, or very young", with Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin later clarifying that some were as young as 13.
This is what comes from coddling kids. Have police armed with nightsticks and tazers, teach those brats a hard life lesson by busting heads for their own good.
Originally posted by cdtm
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66069080This is what comes from coddling kids. Have police armed with nightsticks and tazers, teach those brats a hard life lesson by busting heads for their own good.
The problem is these kids don respect authority. They need to be taught some respect!
Me, I always respected authority, as I do to this day. Most kids are libertarian dipshits until they meet the rod, and that straightens them right out. Which is why we have all these wanna be anarchists existing today, thank you Boomer gen for sparing the rod and ending up with a generation of namby pamby processional victims.
Originally posted by cdtmBut that idea doesn't appear in that quote. Your "main problem" is a strawman.
My main problem here is the idea that actual law should operate differently between whether a male professor hits on a female student, or a female hits on a male, or a male hits on a male or a woman hits on a woman or any other mix that may exist.Do you agree with that much?