Sue Storm vs Superman (one twist)

^ Alright. I admit I forgot about that even though Enemy of the State is one of my favorite Wolverine stories.

Originally posted by carver9
She was covering an entire planet, so does that even matter. Her covering herself would be a far easier task. Also, this Sentry was far stronger than Supes.

Originally posted by ODG
On the single point of internal forcefields... Sue's more likely to make Superman's eyes transparent and making him blind than causing a forcefield to expand in his body.

Sue's threatened as much very many times. But has she actually done it? Maybe as Malice she did once (I don't recall)? But the only time I recall her actually kinda following through with such a threat was in the latest issue of Fantastic Four #7.

She could. She should. She would if she had to, from her statements. But she really hasn't? Not even when her family has been wrecked. Granted, maybe there are instances I am overlooking where she resorted to such tactics.

Originally posted by carver9
She did it here as well.

Anyway, Superman has durability feats beyond any force Sue has mustered. Superman is stronger than anyone she has faced.
Her fields can't hold. He one shots her.

Superman has superhearing, smell, etc. He doesn't need to see her to know where she is.

Originally posted by h1a8
None of Sue's fields are indestructible. They are only as strong as their best feat.
Wasn't that your point about the IMP for Flash?
You basically saying that the "I" doesn't literally mean infinite.

Anyway, Superman has durability feats beyond any force Sue has mustered. Superman is stronger than anyone she has faced.
Her fields can't hold. He one shots her.

Superman has superhearing, smell, etc. He doesn't need to see her to know where she is.

Superman has been attacked and hurt internally.

Sue fields have withstood attacks from Celestials.

She can take away his eyes, nose, heck, if she didn't give a F, she could do the same to his heart. All it takes is a thought.

Superman isn't stronger than anyone she's faced.

Originally posted by carver9

She can take away his eyes, nose, heck, if she didn't give a F, she could do the same to his heart. All it takes is a thought

Not sure how that transfers to nose or heart

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Im genuinely curious about this
The impression I got from Wolverine's scene was Sue turned his optic nerves invisible it couldnt reflect light, so she blinded him

Not sure how that transfers to nose or heart

Works on whatever she wants it to work on. Here, she makes his entire chest invisible, to the point that he was able to see his internals. She even mentions she can block his coronary with a simple force field.

https://imgur.io/a/5olTQld

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Im genuinely curious about this
The impression I got from Wolverine's scene was Sue turned his optic nerves invisible it couldnt reflect light, so she blinded him

Not sure how that transfers to nose or heart

Originally posted by carver9
Works on whatever she wants it to work on. Here, she makes his entire chest invisible, to the point that he was able to see his internals. She even mentions she can block his coronary with a simple force field.

https://imgur.io/a/5olTQld

Originally posted by ODG
At the same time he effectifilty blinded him she projected forcefields in his lungs.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Cant see imgur images these days, it couldnt load for me
But based on your description, it seems it has nothing to do with turning something invisible. It seems more likely Sue needs to use her forcr field or whatnot to physically hurt the opponents

Originally posted by ODG
This is true. But in one of the scans you can't see, Susan Storm expands a forcefield inside Logan's lungs which staggers him. And that is before/simultaneously blinds him.

I just thought it seems really weird if the ability to turn something invisible can actually hurt people without other factors involve. Even by comics standards

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Ok, so based on the description here. Sue was using her force fields to physically hurt her opponents, not just the ability to turn something invisible right？

I just thought it seems really weird if the ability to turn something invisible can actually hurt people without other factors involve. Even by comics standards

She has since projected invisible forcefields throughout her career regularly. The only point of contention was whether she had the propensity to project such forcefields inside an opponent's body. She regularly threatened to do so, but as carver9's scans show, she will actually do it against opponents.

Granted, I think Sue Storm knows that Wolverine has a healing factor and could tank such a devastating attack and therefore was more willing to utilize such a technique against him sparingly. But the same could be said of Superman if all things are considered equal given the common knowledge rule.

Originally posted by ODG
The Invisible Woman's powers are far beyond just turning targets invisible. She learned long ago that her ability to turn things invisible was a form of telekinesis. When she turned someone invisible, she was actually projecting a telekinetic forcefield around their body that refracted all light.

She has since projected invisible forcefields throughout her career regularly. The only point of contention was whether she had the propensity to project such forcefields inside an opponent's body. She regularly threatened to do so, but as carver9's scans show, she will actually do it against opponents.

Granted, I think Sue Storm knows that Wolverine has a healing factor and could tank such a devastating attack and therefore was more willing to utilize such a technique against him sparingly. But the same could be said of Superman if all things are considered equal given the common knowledge rule.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman has been attacked and hurt internally.

Sue fields have withstood attacks from Celestials.

She can take away his eyes, nose, heck, if she didn't give a F, she could do the same to his heart. All it takes is a thought.

Superman isn't stronger than anyone she's faced.

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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Originally posted by carver9
I doubt heat vision or ice breath is getting through her shields, lol.

Spidey got webbing through before she could get a shield up, Supes speed may be equalized but his heat beams are as fast as he normally is. Meaning in a quick draw they should be MUCH quicker then Spidey's webbing.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman has been attacked and hurt internally.

Sue fields have withstood attacks from Celestials.

She can take away his eyes, nose, heck, if she didn't give a F, she could do the same to his heart. All it takes is a thought.

Superman isn't stronger than anyone she's faced.

Energy blasts and punches are two different things.
Force fields are especially made for blasts.
Superman's strength feats are beyond anything her Shields have tanked. We use feats, names mean absolutely nothing.

Sue cannot take away his eyes. She can only make them invisible.
Like I said, he has superhearing, super smell, etc. He doesn't need sight. One or two punchs will break her shield, rendering her koed.

Last question : Who has quantifiable strength feats better than Superman's best that she faced?

Originally posted by h1a8
Energy blasts and punches are two different things.
Force fields are especially made for blasts.
Superman's strength feats are beyond anything her Shields have tanked. We use feats, names mean absolutely nothing.

Sue cannot take away his eyes. She can only make them invisible.
Like I said, he has superhearing, super smell, etc. He doesn't need sight. One or two punchs will break her shield, rendering her koed.

Last question : Who has quantifiable strength feats better than Superman's best that she faced?

Concussive force is also being applied to the attacks.

Her force field is made for all kinetic attacks, including TK.

What's Superman best, non hyperbole, strength ft.

Why can't she take away his eyes?

How is he going to recover from a shield in his heart?

Hulk has better strength fts along with Sentry.