Sue Storm vs Superman (one twist)

Started by qwertyuiop19987 pages

Originally posted by carver9
You alls argument is that, Sue can't hurt his insides. The scan I posted proves the exact opposite. His insides can be tampered with. This isn't the only instance either. Currently looking for a scan where his brain was being tampered with.

His insides being tampered =//= his insides aren't durable
Someone/something is able to tamper Superman's insides =//= Sue, this particular character, can hurt Superman's insides

The same way Hulk can be hurt, doesn't mean he isn't durable. Someone/Something can hurt Hulk, doesn't mean any random shit can hurt him

Sue can hurt Superman. There, I said it. You saying his insides are too durable to be messed with even though his insides have been messed with doesn't make sense. If Manchester can do it, Sue, who has ripped Celestials to shreds and ripped through Dr Doom shields (let me know if you need Dooms shields durability fts) can as well.

Her shields were not only able to overpowrr Thor and Mjlonir, it sent him and the hammer hurling.

https://imgur.io/a/qw3L0Z4

Shields from spacetime being ripped apart...

https://imgur.io/a/q4WdAMB

Punch a hole through a Celestial...

https://imgur.io/a/5j3iGU5

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Do you know what I was saying before typing.......

Originally posted by carver9
He sure did. Doesn't change the fact at what happened there.

😂

So Superman wins?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
His insides being tampered =//= his insides aren't durable
Someone/something is able to tamper Superman's insides =//= Sue, this particular character, can hurt Superman's insides

The same way Hulk can be hurt, doesn't mean he isn't durable. Someone/Something can hurt Hulk, doesn't mean any random shit can hurt him

Are you suggesting that Manchester Black's telekinesis far outstrips Sue Storm's?

Originally posted by ODG
Are you suggesting that Manchester Black's telekinesis far outstrips Sue Storm's?

No, but the point was someone can affect Superman's insides doesn't mean another character can do the same. I.E, that is no limits fallacy

If Manchester can, Sue can as well. Manchester tk shield also blocked Superman attacks, and I think Sue can do the same thing as well.

Originally posted by carver9
If Manchester can, Sue can as well. Manchester tk shield also blocked Superman attacks, and I think Sue can do the same thing as well.

I would say I didn't know you were such a fan of ABC logic, but we both know that I do, and you are.

Originally posted by carver9
Sue can hurt Superman. There, I said it. You saying his insides are too durable to be messed with even though his insides have been messed with doesn't make sense. If Manchester can do it, Sue, who has ripped Celestials to shreds and ripped through Dr Doom shields (let me know if you need Dooms shields durability fts) can as well.

Celestial feat is plot based (has nothing to do with overpowering them).
Post scans of Sue defeating Doom's shields in which it related to expanding bubbles.

Also when using ABC logic, you can only use a character's average (not their best nor their lows). For example, if a standard rocket cracked Doom's shield in one scene and Doom's shield held up to something far greater in another scene then for another character to crack his shield can take anywhere between the lowest and highest of its showings.

Lastly, you can't equate two different methods as one. TK is totally different from secondary force (expanding bubbles). Plus you are conveniently ignoring times where Superman's insides resisted astronomical forces without any damage.
How is it fair to use a character's lows against another character's highs? Isn't that trolling?

Basically Superman has been koed by a gas station (ignore all his other feats) and Thing has bloodied Hulk's face. Therefore Thing can one shot Superman. See how dumb that is when you do the lowball highball con game?

Originally posted by h1a8
Celestial feat is plot based (has nothing to do with overpowering them).
Post scans of Sue defeating Doom's shields in which it related to expanding bubbles.

Also when using ABC logic, you can only use a character's average (not their best nor their lows). For example, if a standard rocket cracked Doom's shield in one scene and Doom's shield held up to something far greater in another scene then for another character to crack his shield can take anywhere between the lowest and highest of its showings.

Lastly, you can't equate two different methods as one. TK is totally different from secondary force (expanding bubbles). Plus you are conveniently ignoring times where Superman's insides resisted astronomical forces without any damage.
How is it fair to use a character's lows against another character's highs? Isn't that trolling?

Basically Superman has been koed by a gas station (ignore all his other feats) and Thing has bloodied Hulk's face. Therefore Thing can one shot Superman. See how dumb that is when you do the lowball highball con game?

Good points.

Sue Storm does not have TK comic experts...

Originally posted by -Pr-
I would say I didn't know you were such a fan of ABC logic, but we both know that I do, and you are.

Their abilities are near identical except Sue>Black telekinesis. Sue abilities is similar in most ways to TK.

Originally posted by h1a8
Celestial feat is plot based (has nothing to do with overpowering them).
Post scans of Sue defeating Doom's shields in which it related to expanding bubbles.

Also when using ABC logic, you can only use a character's average (not their best nor their lows). For example, if a standard rocket cracked Doom's shield in one scene and Doom's shield held up to something far greater in another scene then for another character to crack his shield can take anywhere between the lowest and highest of its showings.

Lastly, you can't equate two different methods as one. TK is totally different from secondary force (expanding bubbles). Plus you are conveniently ignoring times where Superman's insides resisted astronomical forces without any damage.
How is it fair to use a character's lows against another character's highs? Isn't that trolling?

Basically Superman has been koed by a gas station (ignore all his other feats) and Thing has bloodied Hulk's face. Therefore Thing can one shot Superman. See how dumb that is when you do the lowball highball con game?

Post scans of Superman insides durability fts.

Invisible geometric shapes are not tactile omni directional, force generating, force opposing invisible hands generated via theoretical sub atomic particles controlled by the mind called psions. This is why battle boards are so silly. "COMIC EXPERTS". 😂

Originally posted by carver9
Post scans of Superman insides durability fts.

1. A drop of Superman's blood, thrown by him, was able to damage the handle of WW'S blade. If his blood is extremely durable then so is his organs. I can post the scan if you want.

2. Superman was punched with insane force with no internal damage. No brain damage, heart or lung damage, etc. His insides would become mush if they weren't durable. No scans needed since you and everyone else has seen Superman punched by a very strong character.

3. Superman can store astronomical air pressure (super compressed) in his lung without them being damaged. Also his lungs can store air of near absolute zero temperatures too. Cold enough to freeze high class 100s. No scans needed as you seen Superman breath feats.

4. Superman has accelerated with millions of g forces. His insides (if not durable) would detach, flatten, and liquidfy. No scans needed since you seen Superman accelerate to many times faster than light before.

5. Superman has gotten extremely close to singularities and his insides stay intact.

The fts you've named are garbage

Originally posted by h1a8
1. A drop of Superman's blood, thrown by him, was able to damage the handle of WW'S blade. If his blood is extremely durable then so is his organs. I can post the scan if you want.

2. Superman was punched with insane force with no internal damage. No brain damage, heart or lung damage, etc. His insides would become mush if they weren't durable. No scans needed since you and everyone else has seen Superman punched by a very strong character.

3. Superman can store astronomical air pressure (super compressed) in his lung without them being damaged. Also his lungs can store air of near absolute zero temperatures too. Cold enough to freeze high class 100s. No scans needed as you seen Superman breath feats.

4. Superman has accelerated with millions of g forces. His insides (if not durable) would detach, flatten, and liquidfy. No scans needed since you seen Superman accelerate to many times faster than light before.

5. Superman has gotten extremely close to singularities and his insides stay intact.

these are excellent feats which prove organ and internal durability.

Originally posted by carver9
The fts you've named are garbage

Well what are Sue's expanding bubble feats?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
these are excellent feats which prove organ and internal durability.

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