Doomsday Vs Immortal Hulk

Started by Senor Cage5 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
Doomsday is stronger, faster and more durable and has superior regen as of Lazarus Planet event.

Hulk has virtually no chance here

When has DD appeared during the Lazarus event? If so, Hulk is in a world of hurt.

@ODG

Blue Beetle saying he as fast as Flash. Superman saying he's upping his speed to match Doomsday. Just saying what others are going to say.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
When has DD appeared during the Lazarus event? If so, Hulk is in a world of hurt.

Lazarus Planet : Legends Reborn

Originally posted by carver9
@ODG

Blue Beetle saying he as fast as Flash. Superman saying he's upping his speed to match Doomsday. Just saying what others are going to say.

There is no need to put words into other people's mouths. It does not lend itself to constructive conversation.

i dont buy into the blue beetle statement, but the fact that bloodlusted superman specifically said that he had to ramp up his speed into order to match doomsday is certainly of note.

^ So you dismiss a character statement but cite another character statement?

so you don't think superman had to ramp up his speed in that moment to compete with doomsday?

yes or no will do.

^ Yes. But Blue Beetle didn't even make that initial statement which speaks to your actual grasp/concern of facts. And you're ignoring Superman's state at the time he made that statement. And Superman made that same statement about street-leveler Shadowdragon twice over. So how reliable is a character statement given the actual context? Do you even care?

yes or no will do.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Yes.
that's all you needed to say.👆

Originally posted by Senor Cage
When has DD appeared during the Lazarus event? If so, Hulk is in a world of hurt.

Name is on the scans of these links

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So Doomsday is able to reproduce/resurrect himself just from memory

https://ibb.co/tpGTMHP
https://ibb.co/PCmDxwM
https://ibb.co/L0Ny65d
https://ibb.co/1qmn74R

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lazarus Planet : Legends Reborn

Maybe we're referring to the same scene(since I don't remember DD appeared in Legends Reborn)

Were you referring to the scans I posted above? That Doomsday can regenerate himself from just memories/thoughts?

Just want to check if I missed something or not

Yes, I misremembered the tie in name

Originally posted by carver9
@ODG

Blue Beetle saying he as fast as Flash. Superman saying he's upping his speed to match Doomsday. Just saying what others are going to say.

Booster Gold, not Blue Beetle.

And "faster than Flash", not "as fast".

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Carv. You spent two decades on this forum. Stop forgetting everything in seconds like Bruce Willis.

Originally posted by ODG
And Superman made that same statement about street-leveler Shadowdragon twice over. So how reliable is a character statement given the actual context?
I see what you're saying.

But in the spirit of context, DoS Superman was indeed bloodlusted to an extent that we've only seen a scant few times in his entire character history. So the fact that Supes was in that specific mindset at the time, yet still had to consciously keep boosting his speed/perceptions just to contend with Doomsday, does speak volumes concerning DD's inherent [super]speed. Imo. /shrug

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Booster Gold, not Blue Beetle.

And "faster than Flash", not "as fast".

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Carv. You spent two decades on this forum. Stop forgetting everything in seconds like Bruce Willis.

😆 😂

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Name is on the scans of these links

That is crazy.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
that's all you needed to say.👆
Funny. All you needed was to be silent and your contribution to this thread would have been the same. 👆
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So Doomsday is able to reproduce/resurrect himself just from memory

https://ibb.co/tpGTMHP
https://ibb.co/PCmDxwM
https://ibb.co/L0Ny65d
https://ibb.co/1qmn74R

I think if Doomsday could do that on his own without a convenient plot device, he would've done so by now. As it is, the memory of Doomsday was just taking over the Lazarus-imbued Raphael Arce. Then J'onn's meddling seemed to make it worse.

As far as I can tell, this is just another off-shoot of the original Doomsday's memory. Like Doombreaker is an offshoot of the original Doomsday's bone fragment.

Originally posted by Galan007
I see what you're saying.

But in the spirit of context, DoS Superman was indeed bloodlusted to an extent that we've only seen a scant few times in his entire character history. So the fact that Supes was in that specific mindset at the time, yet still had to consciously keep boosting his speed/perceptions just to contend with Doomsday, does speak volumes concerning DD's inherent [super]speed. Imo. /shrug

He was too weak to even fly at the moment he said what he said. I don't think his "bloodlust" overrode his physical state at that point. Measurable speed feats speak volumes for me. Character statements with ample context, much less so.

Particularly, given Superman's aggrandization of the [super]speed of other opponents he's subsequently out-sped. If Superman fought Hulk for the first time in a comic, he'd say the same thing about Hulk.

Funny you say that... I know this is non-canon but in their first fight, Superman did mention Hulk speed...

https://ibb.co/g7srHfN
https://ibb.co/VtC2FJb

Originally posted by ODG
I think if Doomsday could do that on his own without a convenient plot device, he would've done so by now. As it is, the memory of Doomsday was just taking over the Lazarus-imbued Raphael Arce. Then J'onn's meddling seemed to make it worse.

I disagree. as the comic did state/attribute this to his own adaptive/regenerative powers.

https://ibb.co/PCmDxwM
"You have tapping into the memory of Doomsday. The most adaptive createure ever designed. "
"Doomsday could reconstitute himself from whatever was left after death. A scrap of flesh. A nucleotide. it seems even a memory is enough for to reproduce from"

And later when he had the grip on MMH's mind, he was able to spread his egg into physical form via MMH's psychic physiology. Even would have propagated from MMH's mind

Plus, characters have a specific power doesn't necessarily mean they'll use them(especially in comics' case).
Flash wouldn't do a supercomputing that can predict infinite/every possible outcomes in most of his career doesn't mean he can't do it
Superman can absorb magic at one story doesn't mean he would forcefully draw magic from his opponents he ever faced
Black Adam has transforming magical spell, but he rarely used it doesn't mean he couldn't
etcetc

Originally posted by ODG

As far as I can tell, this is just another off-shoot of the original Doomsday's memory. Like Doombreaker is an offshoot of the original Doomsday's bone fragment.

I was replying to Golgo's question( the appearance of Doomsday in Lazarus Planet event) though