Zod (DCEU) vs Steppenwolf (DCEU Snyder Cut)

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Originally posted by FrothByte
When did Superman ever blitz Faora?

Young Barry only got tagged once by the random Kryptonians, when he first entered the battlefield. After he figured out they were faster than humans, the kryptonians were pretty much just statues to the Flashes.

He blitzed her when he got pissed.
They weren’t statues but rather slow moving.
I stated multiple times the flashes were faster. I stated Zod’s speed got awakened and we saw Barry slow down in perspective to his own movements (he sped up significantly).

Originally posted by h1a8
He blitzed her when he got pissed.
They weren’t statues but rather slow moving.
I stated multiple times the flashes were faster. I stated Zod’s speed got awakened and we saw Barry slow down in perspective to his own movements (he sped up significantly).

He didn't blitz her. He tackled her once and that was it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Zod with his sensory weakest and no flight managed to beat Supergirl and both Flashes in one timeline. That Earth became new Krypton.

Now bow before Zod!

Kneel 🙂

Originally posted by FrothByte
He didn't blitz her. He tackled her once and that was it.

That's a blitz. He flew into her at superspeed.

Originally posted by h1a8
That's a blitz. He flew into her at superspeed.

Being able to land a single hit on someone is not a "blitz", especially if that someone was already able to land multiple hits on them.

Stop using words that you don't know the meaning of.

Originally posted by Robtard
Zod with his sensory weakest and no flight managed to beat Supergirl and both Flashes in one timeline. That Earth became new Krypton.

Now bow before Zod!

Havent seen the Flash movie, but your telling me Zod has actually won a fight finally? Wow. I'm impressed.

Originally posted by tkitna
Havent seen the Flash movie, but your telling me Zod has actually won a fight finally? Wow. I'm impressed.
he won it over and over and over, literally ad infinitum.

Originally posted by h1a8
That's a blitz. He flew into her at superspeed.

Wrong. The definition of a "Speed Blitz" is - the act of one attacking their opponent before they are capable of perceiving or reacting to them.

Makkari vs Ikaris = Speed Bltiz

Dash vs Random Goon = Speed Blitz

Quicksilver vs Apocalypse = Speed Blitz

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Superman flying in a straight line and tackling Faora because she had no room to maneuver isn't a Speed Blitz. In the very next scene she dodges his next attack with no problem.

Originally posted by KingD19
Wrong. The definition of a "Speed Blitz" is - the act of one attacking their opponent before they are capable of perceiving or reacting to them.

Makkari vs Ikaris = Speed Bltiz

Dash vs Random Goon = Speed Blitz

Quicksilver vs Apocalypse = Speed Blitz

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Superman flying in a straight line and tackling Faora because she had no room to maneuver isn't a Speed Blitz. In the very next scene she dodges his next attack with no problem.

Also worth noting that Faora couldn't fly, so Superman had an advantage of mobility there.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Also worth noting that Faora couldn't fly, so Superman had an advantage of mobility there.

Yep. She can only make huge speed dashes n a single direction or big jumps to actually utilize her speed, as at a stand still she can only really bob and weave which doesn't help with someone flying right at your center mass.

Originally posted by KingD19
Wrong. The definition of a "Speed Blitz" is - the act of one attacking their opponent before they are capable of perceiving or reacting to them.

Makkari vs Ikaris = Speed Bltiz

Dash vs Random Goon = Speed Blitz

Quicksilver vs Apocalypse = Speed Blitz

https://gfycat.com/impartialshabbylacewing
Superman flying in a straight line and tackling Faora because she had no room to maneuver isn't a Speed Blitz. In the very next scene she dodges his next attack with no problem.

Although that's not the definition of a speed blitz (you are not allowed to make up your own definition on something that has already been defined), you defeated your own argument.

Faora displayed that she can zip (appear to teleport) laterally WITH EASE. There was nothing stopping her from zip sidestepping (like she did when she first avoided Superman’s blitz try) other than her lack of reflexes.

Originally posted by h1a8
Although that's not the definition of a speed blitz (you are not allowed to make up your own definition on something that has already been defined), you defeated your own argument.

Faora displayed that she can zip (appear to teleport) laterally WITH EASE. There was nothing stopping her from zip sidestepping (like she did when she first avoided Superman’s blitz try) other than her lack of reflexes.

The only person trying to make-up their own definition of terms here is you dude. You're the one claiming that simply landing a single hit on a person is already "blitzing" them, even when they themselves got hit multiple times prior to that.

Nobody else would ever agree with that definition. But you go on dreaming like you normally do.

Originally posted by FrothByte
The only person trying to make-up their own definition of terms here is you dude. You're the one claiming that simply landing a single hit on a person is already "blitzing" them, even when they themselves got hit multiple times prior to that.

Nobody else would ever agree with that definition. But you go on dreaming like you normally do.

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"Nobody else would ever agree with that definition." Is a false statement.
It's not a good debating tactic to say false statements.
The vast majority of people would agree with me. Just look up the definition yourself. Attack very fast is the key. Attack can be one or many attacks.

But bad debators argue semantics instead of the ACTUAL point being made. Clark attacked her with speed faster than she can respond, when at first she was able to easily evade him. That's the point.

Originally posted by h1a8
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"Nobody else would ever agree with that definition." Is a false statement.
It's not a good debating tactic to say false statements.
The vast majority of people would agree with me. Just look up the definition yourself. Attack very fast is the key. Attack can be one or many attacks.

But bad debators argue semantics instead of the ACTUAL point being made. Clark attacked her with speed faster than she can respond, when at first she was able to easily evade him. That's the point.

Bad debators make stuff up and lie when they don't have a real argument.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Bad debators make stuff up and lie when they don't have a real argument.
I didn't make up the dictionary's definition. So what are you talking about.
And what does what the phrase actually mean have to do with the point of the argument?
Superman attacked her faster than she can respond. Whether you call it a blitz or not is irrelevant.

Are we actually arguing as to what a Speed Blitz is? Good lord. Every example posted was a Speed Blitz and it could be other things too. Why waste the energy?

Originally posted by tkitna
Are we actually arguing as to what a Speed Blitz is? Good lord. Every example posted was a Speed Blitz and it could be other things too. Why waste the energy?

maybe h1 needs a blow up doll

When people start arguing semantics proves their argument is weak as hell.

FrothByte was arguing that Faora was significantly faster than Superman at all times. I merely pointed out an instance where he used speed against her and she couldn't respond in time.
Then instead of argue against that point he wants to argue what speed blitz mean. Wtf?
Who cares what you call what Superman did to her. It refutes his statement. That's the point.

Originally posted by h1a8
When people start arguing semantics proves their argument is weak as hell.

FrothByte was arguing that Faora was significantly faster than Superman at all times. I merely pointed out an instance where he used speed against her and she couldn't respond in time.
Then instead of argue against that point he wants to argue what speed blitz mean. Wtf?
Who cares what you call what Superman did to her. It refutes his statement. That's the point.

Please quote me where I specifically said Faora was faster than Superman at all times

You also didn't just point to an instance where Superman was able to hit Faora. You specifically said he blitzed her. Thus why I'm pointing out that you clearly don't know what blitzing someone means.

You trying to back out of your argument is proof that you realize you had a weak argument.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Please quote me where I specifically said Faora was faster than Superman [b]at all times

You also didn't just point to an instance where Superman was able to hit Faora. You specifically said he blitzed her. Thus why I'm pointing out that you clearly don't know what blitzing someone means.

You trying to back out of your argument is proof that you realize you had a weak argument. [/B]

So colliding with her (with fists, shoulders, or head) from a distance using great speed is not equivalent to hitting her, especially in reference to reaction times?
Lol

If you read your initial statement with some basic reading comprehension you are basically saying that Faora was always faster than Superman.

If she wasn't then that contradicts your whole point.
Do you understand?