Originally posted by tkitnaThey used magic or some sort of power besides physical strength.
Comic characters do it all the time though. How many times has a character punched or ripped through reality? Real world logic and physics dont apply here.
Originally posted by h1a8
They used magic or some sort of power besides physical strength.
Doesn't matter as it would be unquantifiable. Grabbing air (space) and separating it into two pieces can not be quantified in terms of how much force. So it's not a feat at all in which to judge who's stronger.
The Hulk and Prime have both punched through the fabric of reality, time and space with nothing more than physical strength. Almost every feat in comic books is unquantifiable its just you try to apply real world physics to them and that doesnt work.
Originally posted by h1a8
It's a difference between scientifically impossible and logically impossible.
We accept scientifically impossible in fiction. But nothing logically impossible can be achieved (not even by God).Grabbing space is unquantifiable. Therefore it's no feat at all.
If you disagree then please quantify it for us. Give us the amount of force it would take to grab air or space (nothingness) and separate it into two pieces.
😆 Everything in comic books is logically impossible. Do you accept characters that fly and shoot lasers out of their eyes, turn invisible, bodies that ignite to fire, characters that can shrink, a glove with gems that can do anything the wielder wishes, or a character that controls molecules?
Bringing up God? Seriously? The entity that can do anything and is so beyond human comprehension and so mighty that humans cant even handle the mere site of him? Everything he has done is beyond human logic and standards.
Originally posted by h1a8
Draw a square circle.It's a difference between scientifically impossible and logically impossible.
We accept scientifically impossible in fiction. But nothing logically impossible can be achieved (not even by God).Grabbing space is unquantifiable. Therefore it's no feat at all.
If you disagree then please quantify it for us. Give us the amount of force it would take to grab air or space (nothingness) and separate it into two pieces.
So it's possible for a character to fly and shoot laser beams from his eyes? It's possible for a black hole to open up on earth? It's possible to lift earth weights on earth? It's possible for Lobo to throw a sun on the earth? Again, we are talking about comics. You're either going to accept the statement or accept that you're a picking and choosing hypocrite?
Originally posted by carver9
So it's possible for a character to fly and shoot laser beams from his eyes? It's possible for a black hole to open up on earth? It's possible to lift earth weights on earth? It's possible for Lobo to throw a sun on the earth? Again, we are talking about comics. You're either going to accept the statement or accept that you're a picking and choosing hypocrite?
Yes those things are scientifically improbable but not logically impossible.
It's not logically impossible to do anything you just named.
In fact it's logically possible to do all those things you named. Just not probable.
Good job ignoring the most important part of my post.
The feat is unquantifiable. If you disagree then kindly quantify the minimum amount of force someone needs to just grab space and separate it into two pieces.
Originally posted by tkitnaNo it isn't. 99.99% of all things in comics are logically possible. Just not scientifically probable.
😆 Everything in comic books is logically impossible. Do you accept characters that fly and shoot lasers out of their eyes, turn invisible, bodies that ignite to fire, characters that can shrink, a glove with gems that can do anything the wielder wishes, or a character that controls molecules?Bringing up God? Seriously? The entity that can do anything and is so beyond human comprehension and so mighty that humans cant even handle the mere site of him? Everything he has done is beyond human logic and standards.
An omnipotent being can make all those things possible. But an omnipotent being cannot make something logically impossible possible.
For example, it's logically impossible to draw a square circle. It's not logically impossible to shoot lasers out of one's eyes.
But all those points are irrelevant.
We only use quantifiable feats to prove someone being stronger, faster, etc.
The feat of grabbing nothing (space with the bare hands) and separating it into two pieces with only strength (no other mechanism) is unquantifiable.
Originally posted by h1a8
Yes those things are scientifically improbable but not logically impossible.It's not logically impossible to do anything you just named.
In fact it's logically possible to do all those things you named. Just not probable.Good job ignoring the most important part of my post.
The feat is unquantifiable. If you disagree then kindly quantify the minimum amount of force someone needs to just grab space and separate it into two pieces.
I'm ignoring you because you're a troll.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm ignoring you because you're a troll.
You ignoring the statement because it destroys your whole agenda.
I accepted the feats by Gladiator. But the black hole feat is not quantifiable.
The other feats are quantifiable though.
And you clearly are the troll for voting for Marvel characters against DC characters in a spite situation (where one character is better in every way feat wise). The only other poster who did such things was Quanchi112.
Originally posted by h1a8
You ignoring the statement because it destroys your whole agenda.I accepted the feats by Gladiator. But the black hole feat is not quantifiable.
The other feats are quantifiable though.
I'm ignoring your statement because you think comics are normal, you're picking and choosing, and you're stubborn AF. You're not normal, H1. If Superman chain ft is accurate, Gladiator black hole is accurate.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm ignoring your statement because you think comics are normal, you're picking and choosing, and you're stubborn AF. You're not normal, H1. If Superman chain ft is accurate, Gladiator black hole is accurate.
Accurate? Wth are you talking about? That's the wrong term.
We are talking about quantifiable, not whether something can or did happen.
Gladiator DID rip a region of space into two pieces but the feat is not quantifiable by any means. Do you understand?
So again, Gladiator gets his feats (through word of mouth) AND all them are quantifiable EXCEPT the black hole one.
Originally posted by h1a8
No it isn't. 99.99% of all things in comics are logically possible. Just not scientifically probable.An omnipotent being can make all those things possible. But an omnipotent being cannot make something logically impossible possible.
For example, it's logically impossible to draw a square circle. It's not logically impossible to shoot lasers out of one's eyes.
But all those points are irrelevant.
We only use quantifiable feats to prove someone being stronger, faster, etc.
The feat of grabbing nothing (space with the bare hands) and separating it into two pieces with only strength (no other mechanism) is unquantifiable.
Those things are logically possible? Please explain because this should be entertaining.
So this is logically possible to you? Please explain the logic behind it.
Hulk holds a black hole. Explain this one.
How about throwing a living character into the past. Please indulge us on that one.
Or how about this last one. Superman pushed the sun. An object made out of gas. Please explain.
Originally posted by h1a8
Accurate? Wth are you talking about? That's the wrong term.
We are talking about quantifiable, not whether something can or did happen.
Gladiator DID rip a region of space into two pieces but the feat is not quantifiable by any means. Do you understand?So again, Gladiator gets his feats (through word of mouth) AND all them are quantifiable EXCEPT the black hole one.
Quantify this and provide proof, please...
Originally posted by tkitna
Those things are logically possible? Please explain because this should be entertaining.So this is logically possible to you? Please explain the logic behind it.
Hulk holds a black hole. Explain this one.
How about throwing a living character into the past. Please indulge us on that one.
Or how about this last one. Superman pushed the sun. An object made out of gas. Please explain.
Yup all are logically possible, especially when it comes to magic and esoteric powers.
One feat at a time. So ask me.
Originally posted by carver9
Quantify this and provide proof, please...
I did countless times. I even went to physicists for review.
Originally posted by carver9
How did you get the size of the stars and how did you calculate the pressure used from the black hole. Explain, please. Also, how many stars did you put in your calculation?
Solve for a and plug in for d and t.
Step2
F=ma
Where m is the mass of a star and a is the acceleration found in step 1. Plug in m and a to get F.
F will be at least in the millions of stellar masses.
Originally posted by h1a8
Step1
Distance = 1/2 * acceleration * time ^2
Or
d = 0.5*a*t^2Solve for a and plug in for d and t.
Step2
F=ma
Where m is the mass of a star and a is the acceleration found in step 1. Plug in m and a to get F.
F will be at least in the millions of stellar masses.
How many stars did it pull, what's the size of the stars. Quantify this for me and show me where you got it from. Thanks.