You try to kill superman

Started by MrMind3 pages

You try to kill superman

you can become one of these guys to defeat superman,

High
Adam Warlock, Annihilus (/w/ CCR), Asmodel, Atrocitus, Brimstone, Cyborg Superman, Despero, Doomsday (DOS), Doomsday (Gog Wars), The Eradicator (Fortress Mode), Firestorm, Flash (Barry Allen, Wally West, Bart Allen), Genis-Vell, Godspeed, Grail, Grand Regent Thragg, Green Lanterns (Alan Scott, Hal Jordan, Kyle Rayner), Helspont, Imperiex Probes, John Constantine, Majestic, Maxima, Obsidian, Orion, Plutonian, Quasar, Qztr, Sentry (no Void), Silver Surfer, Sinestro, Spartan 3.0, Starbrand, Starro the Conqueror, Talisman, Thor, The Weird, Ultraman, Wonder Woman, Zatanna, Zod, Zoom (Hunter Solomon)

Middle
Abra Kadabra, Alexander Nero, Apocalypse, Baron Zemo (w/ Moonstones), Battle Beast, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Bizarro Superman, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Blue Marvel, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Captain Marvel (DC), Cassandra Nova, Cheetah, Citizen Steel, Conquest, Count Nefaria, Damage, Damien Hellstrom, Dr. Doom, Eradicator (non-Fortress Mode), Etrigan, Evinlea, The Fallen One, The General (Shaggy Man), Gladiator, Graviton, Grayven, Green Lanterns (Guy Gardner, Icon (Milestone), Jessica Cruz, John Stewart, Katma, Kilowog, Simon Baz, Sodam Yat), Hulk, Hyperion, Invincible, Juggernaut (Classic), Kang, Kid Omega, Kurse, Lobo, Loki, Maestro, Magneto (616), Magus (Post-IG), Manchester Black, Mantis (New God), Martian Manhunter, Mon-El, Mongul, Monica Rambeau (Spectrum), Moonstone (w/ both stones), Morg, Nate Grey, O.M.A.C., Omni-Man, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sersi, Shadowman, Shaman, Skreet, Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris), Stardust, Supergirl, Supreme (original), Ultron, Void (Wildstorm, no Creation Engine power), White Martians, Wildfire, Witchfire (Demon Form)

you have 5 mins prep

explain your strategy, fight in hawaii, basic knowledge

to the death, you will need to kill superman to win

Wally west.
Steal speed and use attosecond perceptions to statue Superman. Then IMP him until he dies.

Adam Warlock with the Soul Gem could go for a 'soul suck' and trap SM's soul in the gem for the win. Failing that, Starbrand going all out could do it. Everyone else on that list fails.

Originally posted by zopzop
Adam Warlock with the Soul Gem could go for a 'soul suck' and trap SM's soul in the gem for the win. Failing that, Starbrand going all out could do it. Everyone else on that list fails.

I guess you totally disagreed with my take.
Why?
Wally can't statue Superman, especially after stealing all or much of his speed?

Firestorm. Just transmute the field into Kryptonite.

Though that becomes problematic if Supes decides to blitz at the onset.

Originally posted by Galan007
Firestorm. Just transmute the field into Kryptonite.

Though that becomes problematic if Supes decides to blitz at the onset.

Silver Surfer then. Transmute the field into Kryptonite at super speeds. Simple.

Originally posted by h1a8
I guess you totally disagreed with my take.
Why?
Wally can't statue Superman, especially after stealing all or much of his speed?

Would speed steal even work on SM? I'd bet my life he'd resist long enough to snap Flash's neck.

Same with Firestorm/Silver Surfer kryptonite shenanigans. He'd resist it long enough to put the hurt on them.

Originally posted by zopzop
Would speed steal even work on SM? I'd bet my life he'd resist long enough to snap Flash's neck.

Same with Firestorm/Silver Surfer kryptonite shenanigans. He'd resist it long enough to put the hurt on them.

Wally is already a magnitude faster than Superman. Superman has no feats of resisting speed steal. In fact, Flash has stolen Superman's speed before.
So your argument has no basis.

Originally posted by zopzop
Same with Firestorm/Silver Surfer kryptonite shenanigans. He'd resist it long enough to put the hurt on them.
So assuming Supes doesn't insta-blitz, then what's stopping Firestorm from turning the field into Kryptonite, and then just going intangible long enough for Supes to either die of k-nite exposure, or at the very least become weak/vulnerable enough for FS to kill outright?

Originally posted by Glorificus
Silver Surfer then. Transmute the field into Kryptonite at super speeds. Simple.

What superspeed lol?

Zopzop does worse than kill him.

Silver Surfer. Just blast him with red sunlight radiation and watch him whimper.

Originally posted by Astner

- Justice League (2006) #23

would surfer instantly know about superman's weaknesses? and even if he did, would he instantly know how to conjure them?

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
would surfer instantly know about superman's weaknesses? and even if he did, would he instantly know how to conjure them?

Yes.

- Gaactus: the Devourer #5

But it doesn't matter, since I get Silver Surfer's powers per the opening post.

by logic power cosmic should help surfer figure it out eventually, although surfer's not the brightest bulb in the bunch

Originally posted by MrMind
by logic power cosmic should help surfer figure it out eventually, although surfer's not the brightest bulb in the bunch

I get to keep my memories, right?

Originally posted by MrMind
you can become one of these guys to defeat superman,

explain your strategy, fight in hawaii, basic knowledge

to the death, you will need to kill superman to win

Originally posted by Astner
I get to keep my memories, right?

yeah, for you guys it be easier cause you already know, all you gotta do is conjure it up before getting blitzed

however it's cis off full capacity, so we are back to does surfer has enough combat speed feats to suggest he can survive the initial blitze of all out bloodlusted superman fighting at his best, my opinion is he is fast enough

Originally posted by Astner
I get to keep my memories, right?
wouldn't that be more of a hindrance then?

like yeah, you personally know that superman is weak to kryptonite and red sun radiation. but do you think that with just 5mins of prep, you'd have mastered surfer's powers enough to be able to conjure either of those things while superman is rushing at you?

it's like this, when you are anticipating someone's punch will he still able to knock you out in the get go?

Doctor Doom with 5 mins prep is the easy pick