Originally posted by carver9😂 nah you're just realizing how retarded your argument is and are trying to defensively act cute. it's a pretty comical bit of trolling tbh.
I literally said I agree with you. If a person can move their limbs at 186000 mps, because let's be honest, if Superman blitz a person at those speeds and that person can perceive, dodge, lift their feet up and kick him, that's more than just throwing a kick. So again, I agree with you all. If a person can perceive something and react to it by moving their limbs at light speeds, hitting that target, they can only run at human level speeds. End of debate.
mma fighters can throw (and dodge) 70+ mph kicks, but their ability to do so obviously doesn't translate to running speed..... considering, you know, that the fastest sprinter on earth was "only" clocked at 27mph.
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Originally posted by h1a8
Carv is saying that in the time it takes for a person to move their limb or throw a punch that same person CAN CIRCLE THE EARTH in that same time.Also he's not understanding the fact that you only need a fraction of the speed of am attack to block or dodge it.
You have to perceive the attack first and then dodge. If the attack is too fast for you to perceive, no matter the size, and your body is too slow to react to it, you will not dodge it. If Hulk throw a ball and it achieves FTL speeds, if you do not have the perception and movement speed to dodge it, you can't. Even at a fraction of those speeds, you're not dodging something coming at you at light speeds.
Originally posted by carver9
I literally said I agree with you. If a person can move their limbs at 186000 mps, because let's be honest, if Superman blitz a person at those speeds and that person can perceive, dodge, lift their feet up and kick him, that's more than just throwing a kick. So again, I agree with you all. If a person can perceive something and react to it by moving their limbs at light speeds, hitting that target, they can only run at human level speeds. End of debate.
Why would they be only be able to run at human level speeds Carv?
That wasn't your original argument. You basically said the time in which they can perform an action they can travel around the Earth in that same time.
And it doesn't take someone to move at 186000 mps to be able to dodge or block an attack moving that fast.
A pitcher can throw a baseball at 100mph but it only takes a catcher less than 5mph to move his hand to catch the ball.
If someone can move their limbs at many times faster than a human then they can also run many times faster than a human. The actual speed of their run can be calculated from the speed of a basic movement (like a punch) within a decent degree of accuracy (less than 50% error). This assumes comic physics of gravity speeding up as the character gets faster (aka Flash, quicksilver, etc).
Originally posted by carver9Speed is irrelevant. Time is the only thing that matters. I (a mere human) can dodge a light speed attack in comics if the attack starts far enough away (a light second for instance).
You have to perceive the attack first and then dodge. If the attack is too fast for you to perceive, no matter the size, and your body is too slow to react to it, you will not dodge it. If Hulk throw a ball and it achieves FTL speeds, if you do not have the perception and movement speed to dodge it, you can't. Even at a fraction of those speeds, you're not dodging something coming at you at light speeds.
Time can be estimated from BOTH speed and distance (not speed only).
If cyborg can make basic human like movements 100x faster than a human then he can be estimated to run at 100x faster than a human.
That doesn't mean he can circle the Earth in the same time he can make a movement
Originally posted by h1a8If someone can move their limbs at many times faster than a human then they can also run many times faster than a human. The actual speed of their run can be calculated from the speed of a basic movement (like a punch) within a decent degree of accuracy (less than 50% error). This assumes comic physics of gravity speeding up as the character gets faster (aka Flash, quicksilver, etc).
I agree. The rest of your comment had nothing to do with what I said since I said multiple actions happening in a single instance while you're statement reference someone just throwing and catching which involves distance and perception (the guy lifting his arm, titlting back, moving his arm to throw the ball and the hitter is seeing all of this, even the ball leaving his hands which aids in him not only knowing when the ball is coming, but using skill to also hit in the right place).
Originally posted by carver9wait so you DIDN'T say if a person can move their limbs at X mph, they can run at X mph?
I never said they could run 35 to 70 mph, lmmfao. No one can. What I did say is if either dedicate as much time as Kipchoge did in training for that specific type of sport, they could probably match him.
Not even sure why they need to train like Kipchoge. They can already move at 70mph; per you, that means they can run at that speed lol.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree. The rest of your comment had nothing to do with what I said since I said multiple actions happening in a single instance while you're statement reference someone just throwing and catching which involves distance and perception (the guy lifting his arm, titlting back, moving his arm to throw the ball and the hitter is seeing all of this, even the ball leaving his hands which aids in him not only knowing when the ball is coming, but using skill to also hit in the right place).
This thread is about running around the Earth, not dodging attacks. You said that if someone can make an action in a nanosecond then they can run around the Earth in a nanosecond too. See how dumb that is?
I can react and make an action in 0.3 of a second. Can I run around the Earth in 0.3 seconds?
Originally posted by carver9
I agree with you all. If a person can move their legs/limbs at FTL speeds, when running, moving their legs at their top speeds, they can only run at peak human speeds. Now let's end this debate.
In Carver's world, there are only two speeds: lightspeed and human speed, lmao.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I mean it kind of is and it is only retard comic logic that says otherwise. If you have the ability to move your body and limbs at speeds like that then there is no reason you should be capped at peak human or like sonic speeds. It's stupid, just like Diana being able to take getting punched by a character who can throw a building but still be pierced by bullets.It's wrong to give these characters movement speed feats well outside of their demonstrated abilities but don't piss on carver's head and tell him it's raining.
I'm not saying the principle is wrong. I'm saying Carver's interpretation of it is. And it is.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because Carver was so salty, he married Lot.
Ha.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I might agree with Carv that DC team is wanking certain characters' speed too much, double standards and all that, but I can't say him making a bait thread and mispelling 3 character names out of 5 (after two decades on this forum) is doing him any favors...
Originally posted by carver9
Thing is, Darkseid truly believes Cyborg has super speed whereas no one believed Surfer reflexes were equal to DCs best speedsters. No one said Surfer reflexes equals Superman or Flash reflexes. Well, no one recently.
Originally posted by carver9
How fast can he run?Surfer has moved his arms within a nano second and his combat speed still isnt great. Do you know what combat speed is?