Run around the world the fastest

Originally posted by carver9
Thing is, Darksaint truly believes Cyborg has super speed whereas no one believed Surfer reflexes were equal to DCs best speedsters. No one said Surfer reflexes equals Superman or Flash reflexes. Well, no one recently.

Originally posted by carver9
@Nuul...

True. Surfer nanosecond second speed should be enough. Doesn't matter since CIS is on and neither will be fighting like anything that was recently said. Surfer wins the majority. Healthy majority.

Originally posted by carver9
It isn't? Post those scans of Superman combating at nanosecond second speeds.

I said recently and you post stuff from 5 to 10 years back. Gotcha.

Originally posted by carver9
I said recently and you post stuff from 5 to 10 years back. Gotcha.

Originally posted by carver9
1. Strength = Thor, Superman close second and Surfer not that far off
2. Power lever output = Surfer
3. Endurance = all are equals
4. Travel Speed = Surfer no contest
5. Reflexes and combat speed = Superman, Surfers close
6. Telepathic resistance = Surfer then Superman
7. Intelligence = Superman
8. Healing Factor = Surfer no contest
9. Longevity = Surfer
10. Willpower = Supes
11. Miscellaneous powers and abilities = Surfer no contest

This is me using current versions of each and including Mjlonir and Surfers board.

Originally posted by carver9
Thing is, Darksaint truly believes Cyborg has super speed whereas no one believed Surfer reflexes were equal to DCs best speedsters. No one said Surfer reflexes equals Superman or Flash reflexes. Well, no one recently.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Considering how this forum wanked Surfer for decades basis on exactly the same scene which DS is using for Cyborg, fair is fair.

Oh, sure.

Surfer and Thor with FLT reactions... old members like us sure remember that kmcircus 😂

Originally posted by carver9
I said recently and you post stuff from 5 to 10 years back. Gotcha.

What happened recently to change your mind?

Originally posted by carver9
Thing is, Darksaint truly believes Cyborg has super speed whereas no one believed Surfer reflexes were equal to DCs best speedsters. No one said Surfer reflexes equals Superman or Flash reflexes. Well, no one recently.

So in your opinion, Superman is one of DC's best speedsters? Well... it took you long enough.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Oh, sure.

Surfer and Thor with FLT reactions... old members like us sure remember that kmcircus 😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

What happened recently to change your mind?

Hmmmmmm I wonder how recent this change of heart was ....

Don't think we'll ever know, tbh.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Don't think we'll ever know, tbh.

hey ds can you summon phildo back?

He's far too busy these days to bother with us little people. I just tell him how awesome and cool I am on here and he's satisfied

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's far too busy these days to bother with us little people.

I heard the great news, too

Originally posted by MrMind
hey ds can you summon phildo back?

BY TEH MOONS OF MUNIPOOR...

BY THE ORB OF AGAMMOTTO...

BY THE VAPOURS OF VALTOOR...

I HEREBY SUMMON.... PHILDOOOOO~~~~!!!!!111

Originally posted by carver9
If they can react at nano second speeds, they should be capable of running at those speeds or close to it. No way around this. They either have the fts or don't.

Wait. When has Spider-Man or Mera or Cyborg reacted in a nanosecond?

Originally posted by h1a8
Wait. When has Spider-Man or Mera or Cyborg reacted in a nanosecond?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
His sensors? What do you mean? A sensor is useless without something to process the...sensory input, and in this case the processor is a Motherbox.

So in the space of a nanosecond:

We literally see his thought processes from one nanosecond to the next.

Downloading, learning, and applying new information:

Tony isn't Cyborg. He doesn't have a Motherbox fused to him. Unless you are arguing that his sensors download and learn martial arts, and then move his limbs? At which point, you are just arguing semantics, as the physical act of moving his limbs etc is Cyborg's.

But yeah, Shift (who is Metamorpho's clone)/Metamorpho/Miss Martian/Atom should be able to do it.

I'm also slightly unimpressed by this usage of infinity, because of your comment that normal humans can tolerate 0.2 seconds of 'infinite knowledge '. I know you try to rationalize it, but that still sounds iffy.

Originally posted by h1a8
Wait. When has Spider-Man or Mera or Cyborg reacted in a nanosecond?

https://ibb.co/WD63dYS

In regards to Mera, Dark said she moved at light speeds due to her hitting a moving Flash.

Originally posted by carver9
https://ibb.co/WD63dYS

In regards to Mera, Dark said she moved at light speeds due to her hitting a moving Flash.

Hitting Flash doesn't prove > lightspeed movement. How many times has a faster character been tagged by speeds significantly slower?I'm pretty sure Flash has been tagged by things moving slower than a bullet before.

Hell Spidey dodges bullets on a daily but sometimes get hit with speeds well below bullet speed (writers forgot his SS too).
We have PIS and we have plot devices.

Also Spidey only dodges lasers because his SS guides him out of the way right before they are fired. Aim dodge lasers.
His SS has been shown to act like a form of precog before.

Also it takes stamina to run around the Earth. Just because I'm faster than you doesn't mean I can run longer distances.

And just to scale things. The average human's top running speed is about 60-80% of their punching speed.
For elite fighters then about 50-60%

Originally posted by h1a8
Hitting Flash doesn't prove > lightspeed movement. How many times has a faster character been tagged by speeds significantly slower?I'm pretty sure Flash has been tagged by things moving slower than a bullet before.

Hell Spidey dodges bullets on a daily but sometimes get hit with speeds well below bullet speed (writers forgot his SS too).
We have PIS and we have plot devices.

Also Spidey only dodges lasers because his SS guides him out of the way right before they are fired. Aim dodge lasers.
His SS has been shown to act like a form of precog before.

Also it takes stamina to run around the Earth. Just because I'm faster than you doesn't mean I can run longer distances.

And just to scale things. The average human's top running speed is about 60-80% of their punching speed.
For elite fighters then about 50-60%

Carver was incredibly salty, all because he didn't like me saying PIS existed in comics, lmao:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Mera would have infinite infinite speed, lmao.

But this is if you want to agree that Flash wasn't at his best.

Or if you want to agree PIS exists in comics.

Either way, you admit that I am right.