Not sure I'd same "same stats", though maybe, but the Hydra and then Soviet experiments done on him certainly put him very close to Cap and BP physical abilities. The robo-arm making up any differences.
To argue that Bucky/WS is nigh useless without his robo-arm is idiotic, he's still superpowered and highly trained.
Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure I'd same "same stats", though maybe, but the Hydra and then Soviet experiments done on him certainly put him very close to Cap and BP physical abilities. The robo-arm making up any differences.To argue that Bucky/WS is nigh useless without his robo-arm is idiotic, he's still superpowered and highly trained.
Correct. Same stats was a bit vague, but in the same area. He performs in a similar manner. He runs, jumps, fights, and takes punishment in the same arena as the other two. He isnt just some average Joe without the arm.
Originally posted by tkitna
Yeah Bucky who has the same stats as Cap and Black Panther is utterly fodder.
Not the same stats and his enhancements (other than arm) were kept as vague as possible.
But the character has certainly proven himself capable - both in comics and on the big screen.
And Yautja have a long history of constantly struggling with much lesser threats.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not the same stats and his enhancements (other than arm) were kept as vague as possible.But the character has certainly proven himself capable - both in comics and on the big screen.
And Yautja have a long history of constantly struggling with much lesser threats.
To be fair, they all seemed very close to each other (Cap, Bucky and T'Challa). Trying to argue about their stat differences would be like trying to compare Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather and Canelo Alvarez.
Originally posted by tkitna
Why I keep responding to you is beyond me, but here goes.How fast do you think Cap and BP were running here? Before you use your amazing skills of visual deduction lets factor in a couple of things first. They are running with sprinting Wakanda soldiers who are at peak physical fitness. Also take this into account, Usain Bolt was once clocked at 28 mph during a sprint.
You dont feel Clint can hit a Predator because some have avoided being hit by a hail of bullets wildly being shot by mere humans that were most likely shook at the time?
55 sec mark he curves a long range shot that destroys a helicarrior engine. (that arrow alone would take out probably every predator in this debate)
2:37 mark he shoots an arrow right in the middle of the head that proceeds to take out 4 or 5 more at the same time
3:21 he takes out a speeding chitauri glider without even looking. A glider that is moving and much faster than any predator.
3:37 hit a chitauri on a glider right in the head from long distance
4:27 taking multiple people out from a moving truck on uneven land
5:11 displays yet another concussive arrow that would take out numerous predators
Takes out numerous speeding Ultron bots that are faster than predators and displaying the ability to shoot more than one arrow at a time
10:07 mark I forgot his Ronin stint. Throwing knives from long distances and his fighting ability.
I'm not pointing out anymore. You should get the idea by now. Clint isnt just some human shooting a machine gun.
You said Bucky was fodder? Lol. Good lord.
I already have Cap the benefit of the doubt and said 30mph.
None of those Clint feats refutes my argument.
Preds can easily evade the arrow or shoot them out of the air.
Preds can shoot him down long before he shoots an arrow out.
Originally posted by tkitna
Yeah I retracted my statement and tried to better explain. Lets just say they all play in the same ballpark.
Honestly, in this particular thread, such details really don't matter...
As we know that powerless humans - without some quasi-supernatural skills or enhancements - were more than a match for preds.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Honestly, in this particular thread, such details really don't matter...As we know that powerless humans - without some quasi-supernatural skills or enhancements - were more than a match for preds.
Exactly, but evidently H1 believes a random Joe with a machine gun is way more dangerous than MCU Hawkeye. 😂
Originally posted by tkitnaFrom close enough range they are. Give me a machine gun or even an ar15 and I will kill Clint easily. He will be dead before he can even pull the arrow out his satchel.
Exactly, but evidently H1 believes a random Joe with a machine gun is way more dangerous than MCU Hawkeye. 😂
Originally posted by h1a8
From close enough range they are. Give me a machine gun or even an ar15 and I will kill Clint easily. He will be dead before he can even pull the arrow out his satchel.
Suurrree!!! I'm sure Clints never experienced a trained soldier or mercenary with a machine gun or ar15 before, yet some pencil neck comic geek is easily going to gun him down. Barton would kill you before you could even lift the gun.
The laughter never stops with you H1.