Originally posted by h1a8
In the vicinity means strong enough to damage or stun someone significantly (they can't no sell you or be barely dazed).
And take a serious blow from them without being koed or killed or seriously stunned.It does not mean a peer or near equal. Thing is in the vicinity of Namor. But Namor is stronger. Namor is in the vicinity of Savage Hulk but Hulk is stronger.
Also a chain of 2 or more vicinities (A to B to C) doesn't guarantee that A is in the vicinity of C. The transitive property isn't necessarily true.
Being in the vicinity of a high class 100 automatically makes you at least a low class 100.
Thats my take.
Kingpin is in the vicinity of Grey Hulk, then.
Originally posted by h1a8
Reread my post. You are leaving out key adjectives
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Kingpin took serious blows from Kurse and Grey Hulk without being koed or killed or seriously stunned (he was even laughing after with Kurse).
He didn't damage or stun Grey Hulk or Kurse, but then King Shark didn't do the same to WW either, yet he's in her vicinity.
Originally posted by ParmaniacIf you look at one characte's low showings against another characters high showings then then of course they can win.
It's ironic, at first I just thought we were all going with the KMC meme that Kingpin is King and that this was actually a mismatch but after seeing all this I'm actually convinced that Kingin can for real win this.
KS will bite a huge plug in KP and there is no defense KP have against it.If we take KS top durability showings (tanking hits against high class 100s and rifle bullets bouncing off him like Superman like).
KS can bite through and rip through solid steel and titanium like it's made of paper.
KS has healing factor (not that KP could ever damage him).
KS can literally beat 5 KPs.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85He never struck her. And I already said the feat alone doesn't prove it. It just ADDS to the collection of evidence.
King Shark didn't hurt WW either, so you forgot that conjunction too.
Originally posted by h1a8
He never struck her. And I already said the feat alone doesn't prove it. It just ADDS to the collection of evidence.
But he didn't need to, to get the lofty accolade bestowed by you to be placed in her vicinity.
So why does Kingpin need to, in order to be placed in Kurse's vicinity? Grey Hulk's? I hope you're getting my point - that you're using double standards here.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But he didn't need to, to get the lofty accolade bestowed by you to be placed in her vicinity.So why does Kingpin need to, in order to be placed in Kurse's vicinity? Grey Hulk's? I hope you're getting my point - that you're using double standards here.
KP didn't tank a serious blow from Kurse without significant incident. It can't be shown with strong evidence that Kurse used majority effort in his strikes. Also He was beat to a pulp.
Originally posted by h1a8
KP didn't tank a serious blow from Kurse without significant incident. It can't be shown with strong evidence that Kurse used majority effort in his strikes. Also He was beat to a pulp.
In the vicinity means strong enough to damage or stun someone significantly (they can't no sell you or be barely dazed).
And take a serious blow from them without being koed or killed or seriously stunned.
No embellishments, no edits from me.
Was Kingpin koed, killed, or seriously stunned? Yes or no?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85When did KP significantly stun a high class 100 with a blow?
This was your criteria, here, let me quote it for you:No embellishments, no edits from me.
Was Kingpin koed, killed, or seriously stunned? Yes or no?
And ti answer your question, you are leaving out the adjective (which would change the whole meaning of the statement)
Originally posted by h1a8
When did KP significantly stun a high class 100 with a blow?And ti answer your question, you are leaving out the adjective (which would change the whole meaning of the statement)
But my point is that King Shark didn't do squat against WW, yet you placed him in her vicinity, based on that one showing. Based purely on King Shark being on the receiving end of a hit from her when she was trying to save him.
So KP should be accorded the same laxity in rules as you apply to KS
Originally posted by DarkSaint85You have a hard time understanding English.
But my point is that King Shark didn't do squat against WW, yet you placed him in her vicinity, based on that one showing. Based purely on King Shark being on the receiving end of a hit from her when she was trying to save him.So KP should be accorded the same laxity in rules as you apply to KS
If a character, through raw durability, no sells or nearly no sells a physical strike from someone then either they are in the physical vicinity (strength and durability) of that striking character or they greatly exceed them.
But that's only now, when we all pointed out the error of your ways, correct?
I am asking you to go back to the H1 of 2-3 days ago, who was completely in awe of KS who was in the vicinity of WW because of that showing.
And this all goes back to WW putting significant effort into it AND (see? Me know conjunction too!) that she was being particularly noteworthy in that story line.
Which there is very little evidence for the first (and evidence to the contrary) and no evidence for the second.
And THEN, on top of that, PIS exists which means even Blue Beetle (as you hate Batman because it breaks your brain) can also exist in the vicinity of WW
Originally posted by h1a8What other feats make him class 100? Let's see them.
He's not class 100 because WW elbowed him in the gut. That feat just ADDS to the already proven evidence. He's class 100 for all his other feats. Without that feat he still is class 100.Doombots are not class 100. Blasts are not physical strikes.
Joe Fixit weighs less than 1000lb. A 5 tonner could have done that.
Cap And Spidey have knocked down and swung around much stronger beings.
It's all about being able lift their weight.Fixit was not visibly staggered. He was possibly surprised because it was a cheap shot. Prior KP hits were no sold. Did you know that?
But he matched strength with the Doombot and overpowered it. Tanked a blast and punch to the face (and actually tanked, not like KS getting hurt by a jab). And he crushed the Doombot's hand.
So that's a class 5 feat?