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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But that's only now, when we all pointed out the error of your ways, correct?I am asking you to go back to the H1 of 2-3 days ago, who was completely in awe of KS who was in the vicinity of WW because of that showing.
And this all goes back to WW putting significant effort into it AND (see? Me know conjunction too!) that she was being particularly noteworthy in that story line.
Which there is very little evidence for the first (and evidence to the contrary) and no evidence for the second.
And THEN, on top of that, PIS exists which means even Blue Beetle (as you hate Batman because it breaks your brain) can also exist in the vicinity of WW
Originally posted by h1a8
1. When I speak of vicinity I'm referring to BOTH strength and durability. Not just strength and not just durability. Not anything else (other powers and ability).
2. I gave an example of what I mean by vicinity. You keep forgetting and reverting back to the "near equal" meaning. KS being in the vicinity of someone that can lift 10,000 tons or more means that he's at minimum 100 tonner. That's far from near equal. Most reasonable people would disagree with me and assume that if someone is shown to nearly match another physically (not speed, skill, and other abilities) then they are much more closer than 100 tons to 10,000 tons.
3. I don't know about Blue Bettle other than the movie. From the movie I would say Blue Bettle is in the vicinity of movie WW (strength and durability).
4. KS isn't known for fighting skill. To last against the likes of WW, AM, Superboy, etc he has to be within their vicinity physically. Not necessarily a peer though.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85KP is not. He didn't take a seriously blow from either with little effect.As am I. Kingpin is in the vicinity of Grey Hulk and Kurse.
I think you are projecting here. I am saing KP i s in the vicinity of Grey Hulk and Kurse, as per your general arbitrary 'anything can mean anything' double standard BS. You keep thinking that I am arguing KP can destroy asteroids 2x the size of Earth or beat Thor or something, lol.
Cool, then you can stay out of it and just accept my statements then as you know nothing of the character.
He didn't last against WW, lol, for a start. She was there to save him from being killed, he attacked a guard, she hit him once, that was the end of the fight. [/B]
I'm out going to accept your statements about Blue Beetle since I don't know about him. And what does Blue Beetle have to do with this? I have no problem with him being in the vicinity of ANYONE YOU LIKE. Doesn't affect the debate at all.
KS was barely (if any) affected by her serious blow. That's strong evidence.
Originally posted by h1a8
He's not class 100 because WW elbowed him in the gut. That feat just ADDS to the already proven evidence. He's class 100 for all his other feats. Without that feat he still is class 100.Doombots are not class 100. Blasts are not physical strikes.
Joe Fixit weighs less than 1000lb. A 5 tonner could have done that.
Cap And Spidey have knocked down and swung around much stronger beings.
It's all about being able lift their weight.Fixit was not visibly staggered. He was possibly surprised because it was a cheap shot. Prior KP hits were no sold. Did you know that?
Originally posted by Smurph
What other feats make him class 100? Let's see them.But he matched strength with the Doombot and overpowered it. Tanked a blast and punch to the face (and actually tanked, not like KS getting hurt by a jab). And he crushed the Doombot's hand.
So that's a class 5 feat?
Originally posted by h1a8
KP is not. He didn't take a seriously blow from either with little effect.
He didn't hit them with a blow that made them seriously stunned or damaged.I'm out going to accept your statements about Blue Beetle since I don't know about him. And what does Blue Beetle have to do with this? I have no problem with him being in the vicinity of ANYONE YOU LIKE. Doesn't affect the debate at all.
KS was barely (if any) affected by her serious blow. That's strong evidence.
The first sentence is you moving the goalposts. Your original criteria wasn't 'little effect '
Your second sentence never applies to King Shark either - he never hit WW.
Hence me saying you are applying double standards