Originally posted by Stoic
The Surfer, his board, and ability to alter molecules, including physical density altering, mucking around with the genes of terrestrial Life forms are things that should not be ignored. Anyone can argue a poorly written character. In a Death Battle where both characters are using their abilities intelligently backed by prior showings, there is no reason why a competent Surfer would not absolutely dominate. Orion would be fighting Casper the friendly ghost with the ability to place stars in your intestines.He can become both invisible, and intangible at the same time. If we did an exotic powers count between the two of these characters, the Surfer makes Orion nearly look like a one trick pony.
In a forum setting, I lean towards the Surfer taking this.
Originally posted by Astner- Darkseid vs. Galactus: The Hunger
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But, if the Parademons on that story gave the Surfer a hard time,how badly would they maul Orion who the Surfer bullied?
The problem with many forums is that people will remember poor showings for one while glorifying the other.
Full capacity under their normal optimum state is what people should argue. Orion may never get the chance to even touch a guy that can remain intangible.
Originally posted by Stoic
But, if the Parademons on that story gave the Surfer a hard time,how badly would they maul Orion who the Surfer bullied?The problem with many forums is that people will remember poor showings for one while glorifying the other.
Full capacity under their normal optimum state is what people should argue. Orion may never get the chance to even touch a guy that can remain intangible.
Is this not what you are doing, with mentions of titanium boxes?
Besides, a cursory glance at his respect thread has Orion himself going intangible.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Is this not what you are doing, with mentions of titanium boxes?Besides, a cursory glance at his respect thread has Orion himself going intangible.
The titanium box was an example of looking at a characters lowest showings instead of looking at their highest. This forum has been arguing full capacity for years, both characters deserve to be mentioned at their best, or should we ignore Superman at his best, and concentrate on the one shot that Godzilla gave him recently?
Originally posted by Stoic
The titanium box was an example of looking at a characters lowest showings instead of looking at their highest. This forum has been arguing full capacity for years, both characters deserve to be mentioned at their best, or should we ignore Superman at his best, and concentrate on the one shot that Godzilla gave him recently?
Yet no one was doing so, apart from you when you came in.
I know you're trying to bait, but that's a poor example. It's non canon to Superman, non canon to Godzilla, and Godzilla's breath has Kryptonite characteristics.
In any case, to give you wriggle room - since people want to go full capacity (which I agree with) then Orion enters the fray being bigger than Galactus.
Originally posted by Stoic
But, if the Parademons on that story gave the Surfer a hard time,how badly would they maul Orion who the Surfer bullied?The problem with many forums is that people will remember poor showings for one while glorifying the other.
Full capacity under their normal optimum state is what people should argue. Orion may never get the chance to even touch a guy that can remain intangible.
Canon Orion would maul Surfer from the hunger.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Mother box turns Surfer inside out.
Not only is that entirely non canon but it also gave Surfer one of the most embarrassing moments when a few parademons absolutely overpowered him.http://i.imgur.com/oQJAGFn.jpg
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They did absolutely nothing to him, lol.
In a battle to the death where both characters use their powers intelligently, Orion and the Mother Box wouldn't have the time to formulate an elaborate win win strategy. The Surfer moved 2 light tears in less than a couple seconds. Could be remembering the exact time stamp, but this is one of the fastest characters in all of comics. Knull would've beaten the life out of Orion 1v1. What actual super heroes has Orion defeated?
Originally posted by Stoic
In a battle to the death where both characters use their powers intelligently, Orion and the Mother Box wouldn't have the time to formulate an elaborate win win strategy. The Surfer moved 2 light tears in less than a couple seconds. Could be remembering the exact time stamp, but this is one of the fastest characters in all of comics. Knull would've beaten the life out of Orion 1v1. What actual super heroes has Orion defeated?
You do realise Lightray has something similar speed wise, right?
And Mother Boxes are fast too. I suggest you do a bit of research on them. They can travel through time, make their user intangible, give them telepathy, absorb energy, redirect energy, create forcefields, etc etc.
Originally posted by Stoic
In a battle to the death where both characters use their powers intelligently, Orion and the Mother Box wouldn't have the time to formulate an elaborate win win strategy. The Surfer moved 2 light tears in less than a couple seconds. Could be remembering the exact time stamp, but this is one of the fastest characters in all of comics. Knull would've beaten the life out of Orion 1v1. What actual super heroes has Orion defeated?
Its more likely that Mother Box drains Surfer completely, one mother box literally drained Oan power battery entirely, Surfer is nothing compared to that.
Originally posted by StoicI guess he could run away really fast.
In a battle to the death where both characters use their powers intelligently, Orion and the Mother Box wouldn't have the time to formulate an elaborate win win strategy. The Surfer moved 2 light tears in less than a couple seconds. Could be remembering the exact time stamp, but this is one of the fastest characters in all of comics. Knull would've beaten the life out of Orion 1v1. What actual super heroes has Orion defeated?
Originally posted by carver9
Orion fights nothing like the way people are depicting here. Surfer literally stomps him and lightray.
shut the fook up, you don't even know why lightray is
lightray alone has feats that rival surfers like surviving black hole, creating sun, massively ftl speed, generating heat equals multiple suns, generating supernova level power
plus he has a motherbox too
he alone would be split even with surfer
orion would literally shoves that board up surfer's ass. orion stomps in his sleep you fat lips turd