Mythical scans

Started by DarkSaint8513 pages

Originally posted by ODG
^ Well it seems as soon as normal Asgardians start getting actual feats... you refuse to consider them normal Asgardian fodder anymore? You see the problem with that, right? You're begging an impossible question.

This seems to be a pointless exercise. What's the underlying purpose of it? How is that scan lip service/hype? Doom vivisected a fodder Asgardian and revealed his scientific discoveries about what apparently is a baseline for ordinary Asgardians. This poor schlub, Endrik, that was drugged and lured by Loki to Doom when they were in Latveria:
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/oo326/OneDumbG0/Asgardians02.jpg
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Well it's the same way 'named' humans (Punisher, Hawkeye, Batman, hell even Penguin, Alfred, Jarvis) have feats that poop all over 'normal' humans, and we won't take Hawkeye for example as emblematic of what a normal human is in Marvel or DC. They're not baseline.

So I just asked for, I dunno, strength or durability feats. Speed feats. Basically, if I were to make a respect thread for Asgardians, what would I have to draw from.
You are far better than I at respect threads. So you know what 'looks good', as it were.

What would you put in a respect thread that's called 'Generic Asgardian respect thread ' ?

^ It's either all or nothing.

Unless an Asgardian has some Odinblood or otherwise comes from special royal blood, then feats by any Asgardian should be fair game. Because guys like Volstagg have never been explained as being biologically special or exceptionally powered. He's literally a normal Asgardian.

But then if someone were to complain, no, he's too exceptional to be considered a normal Asgardian, then what's the point? Once you follow that sort of arbitrary limitation, as soon as any normal Asgardian (for instance, Kelda) is introduced and starts attaining even a handful of feats, there will be complaints that, again no, she's too exceptional to be considered a normal Asgardian.

A typical respect thread is filled with feats that are seen as exceptional. So how can you fill such a respect thread by categorically excluding all characters by using an amorphous definition of exceptionality? What you're asking for is a self-defeating proposition:

"Oh, here's an exceptional feat for the respect thread!"

"No, the feat is too exceptional for it to be in the respect thread."

". . . . . ."

But what you're asking is a very narrow question that I don't think underpins your intention. I just don't know what the point of this discussion is. What exactly are you wondering about Asgardians?

Like what level of superhuman is an Asgardian?

Kingpin has no mutant blood, no tech, no enchantments, nothing - is he 'typical' of a normal human? There's never been an explanation for him being biologically special or exceptionally powered - he's literally a human.

I ask for normal human level feats or capabilities. You start answering with Kingpin, Batman, Nightwing, hell, here's Doom naked with no armour killing a lion with his bare hands....

Is it that difficult to grasp? Like are we just at a crossroads here? Are normal humans all Kingpin/Batman/Punisher/Doom without armour level?

If yes, then ok. Volstagg and the Warrriors three et Al are all example Asgardians.

If no, then....you surely see the distinction?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Like what level of superhuman is an Asgardian?
That's like asking what level of superhuman is a mutant? Because the most honest answer is that the range of an Asgardian's superhuman-ness is incredibly large. Like, there are limits to exceptionally peak humans. Kingpin, for example as you said. But the limits of exceptionally peak humans doesn't come close to the limits of non-royalty Asgardians.

At their most basic, they are all virtually immortal with a significant healing factor. They don't seem to die of old age. Their immortality does suffer on the Earthly plane. They all have a divine spark of Odinforce within them.

But some are super-strong like Volstagg. Some are super-fast like Hermod. Some are super-magical like Enchantress.

Anyway, is your inquiry related to a mythical scan or something? Because this conversation kinda seems off-topic for this thread. Equally my fault I guess but it just seems like this conversation has its source somewhere else?

Saint is merely asking for feats from Asgardians that basically have no name and can be considered "fodder" to lump all those no name feats together that they count for all the no names. Is there something like a random Asgardian lifting a 20 ton boulder or some shit.

Originally posted by ODG
That's like asking what level of superhuman is a mutant? Because the most honest answer is that the range of an Asgardian's superhuman-ness is incredibly large. Like, there are limits to exceptionally peak humans. Kingpin, for example as you said. But the limits of exceptionally peak humans doesn't come close to the limits of non-royalty Asgardians.
I think my usage of mutants in the underlined part of my post doesn't capture my intention. Because a mutant is defined by their special x-factor which invariably means a specialness or "exceptionality." So, not the same.

So replace my it with "That's like asking what level of superhuman is an angel of the Silver City?" Like you can eliminate all the named archangels and other angels with special roles but what about the "fodder" angels? Isn't that like an impossible question to answer?

Sure, it was a request for scans of actual Asgardian feats that weren't just lip service.

Like I've seen the scans of them being hyped up as dangerous etc. But I wanted I don't know, scans of them lifting/striking things. Or being durable etc to bullets or something.

If I asked what a baseline average human was, apparently they're as smart as Nygma, hacking New God tech, or like Tony/Doom can create items to fight gods, they're as durable as Kingpin, with the pain tolerance of Frank castle, able to beat Arkillo in h2h fisticuffs, and that doesn't even stop when they get old, as Alfred and Jarvis attest to.

Whereas I'm talking about a generic man off the street. So with the Asgardians, whilst you say they're like mutants with a spread of powers and abilities, is that really the case? Like the ones Daken slaughtered, for example?

The Daken scan just made me wonder what level Asgardians are, so I tried to find something on their levels, but I got a lot of lip service, that's all I'm getting at.

Hence my request here. 'Ulf Wuttigar possesses the strength and speed of a typical Asgardian of his age' which is....what, is my question. Does anyone have scans of a typical Asgardian and their power levels?

From the sounds of things, though, it's a no.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Saint is merely asking for feats from Asgardians that basically have no name and can be considered "fodder" to lump all those no name feats together that they count for all the no names. Is there something like a random Asgardian lifting a 20 ton boulder or some shit.
Ok, but as I said, it seems like you're asking for feats but then rejecting any feats from a category of Asgardians that are arbitrarily being eliminated from consideration.

Looking at it from a different perspective, Parmaniac, are you able to list feats from Silver City angels that basically have no name and can be considered "fodder" to lump all those no name feats together that they count for all the no names. Is there something like a random Silver City angel lifting a 20 ton boulder or some shit?

It just seems like a self-defeating proposition. I mean, maybe you can and I'm just being obtuse. So let me know.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Saint is merely asking for feats from Asgardians that basically have no name and can be considered "fodder" to lump all those no name feats together that they count for all the no names. Is there something like a random Asgardian lifting a 20 ton boulder or some shit.

Nothing, but he can't say that now, can he lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hence my request here. 'Ulf Wuttigar possesses the strength and speed of a typical Asgardian of his age' which is....what, is my question. Does anyone have scans of a typical Asgardian and their power levels?

From the sounds of things, though, it's a no.

So my issue is, you appear to be categorically rejecting any feats from Asgardians that you don't think are representative of Asgardians as a whole. But then that's just you assuming your own conclusion.

You haven't presented any reasoning behind rejecting a Volstagg feat or Dr. Doom's scientific conclusions after vivisecting the fodder, Endrik, other than, "Nah, doesn't count."

Seems more like you're not genuinely asking for a 'Generic Asgardian respect thread '. Indeed, what you're asking for is a 'Generic Asgardian disrespect thread '. You want (unintentionally or not) all their lowest feats to establish the lowest baseline for Asgardians. Because anything that could raise the collective ceiling for Asgardians should be disregarded.

Ok? But what sort of inquiry is that? It doesn't really have any point. But if you genuinely believe otherwise, how would you go about making a 'Generic Silver City angel respect thread '? What's your notion of them collectively applying whatever standards you're applying to Asgardians?

If you explain that, maybe I can penetrate what the point of this is.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nothing, but he can't say that now, can he lol.
Hey, b1tch. Leave the constructive conversation to your betters.

Everybody knows you can't help but sniff after my ballz for the past decade after I put you on ignore and you declared you put me on ignore, lol. But your troll comments don't add anything.

What is the point of you? You seriously need my attention after all these years? I mean, do you want me to unignore you and proceed to utterly tear you and your tired schtick to pieces? Again? Were those the best times of your KMC life and you want them revisited? Ok.

Make a thread with a voting poll then: "Should ODG unignore abhilegend after a decade+?" I'll agree to the poll results.

Otherwise, stfu. 👆

Originally posted by ODG
Hey, b1tch. Leave the constructive conversation to your betters.

You, my better? Bitch please, I eat punks like you before breakfast.

Everybody knows you can't help but sniff after my ballz for the past decade after I put you on ignore and you declared you put me on ignore, lol. But your troll comments don't add anything.

Why would I put a small biyatch like you on ignore? You ain't worth the effort.

What is the point of you? You seriously need my attention after all these years? I mean, do you want me to unignore you and proceed to utterly tear you and your tired schtick to pieces? Again? Were those the best times of your KMC life and you want them revisited? Ok.

Biyatch, you couldn't handle me when I arrived here more than a decade ago and fled like a coward and put me on ignore. Now? You aren't worth the dust on my shoes.

Make a thread with a voting poll then: "Should ODG unignore abhilegend after a decade+?" I'll agree to the poll results.

Otherwise, stfu. 👆

Who the **** do you think you are biyatch?

But sure, if you really want my attention, little bitch, let's do it. I haven't eaten a Thor fanboy's soul since I bullied rage out of here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You, my better? Bitch please, I eat punks like you before breakfast.
I was referring to other posters. Not me. Learn English, please. Or, at the very least, don't get so obviously triggered once you've had a taste of actual interaction with the one KMC poster you've been chasing after for 10+ years.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Why would I put a small biyatch like you on ignore? You ain't worth the effort.
That's exactly what you did here after being thoroughly undressed way back in Dec 2011:
https://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=13666559&highlight=bash+game+userid%3A133437#post13666559

I mean, you unignored me almost right away the very next month because you couldn't help yourself but trying to rewrite history like you never did? Bruh, you stink of desperation at saving face.

Originally posted by abhilegend
But sure, if you really want my attention, little bitch, let's do it.
Why would I want your attention? I put you on ignore for 10+ years, so uhhh... other way innit? How many times did I reply to your posts or namedrop "abihilegend" since I put you on ignore in Dec 2011?
https://www.killermovies.com/forums/search.php?action=showresults&q=abhilegend+userid%3A77143

That's 12x over 12+ years. Now let's do a search and see how many times you've replied to my posts or namedropped "ODG" since I put you on ignore in Dec 2011? Let's see:
https://www.killermovies.com/forums/search.php?s=&action=showresults&q=ODG+userid%3A133437&sortby=&sortorder=&pagenumber=1

Good lord, that's beyond 200x over 12+ years. Actually, more than that because the results hit the limit.

Keep pretending you aint the b1tch begging for attention. laughcry

I ask for scans.

"What are your intentions towards my daughter?"

If I wanted a disrespect thread, you wouldn't be the one I'm asking. Abhi probably has an entire album ready to go - but I'm not asking him.

Parm put it quite succinctly, tbh.

^ Well, this was my response to Parmaniac:

Originally posted by ODG
Ok, but as I said, it seems like you're asking for feats but then rejecting any feats from a category of Asgardians that are arbitrarily being eliminated from consideration.

Looking at it from a different perspective, Parmaniac, are you able to list feats from Silver City angels that basically have no name and can be considered "fodder" to lump all those no name feats together that they count for all the no names. Is there something like a random Silver City angel lifting a 20 ton boulder or some shit?

It just seems like a self-defeating proposition. I mean, maybe you can and I'm just being obtuse. So let me know.

So now it's addressed to you as well.

I am simply trying to figure out what the point of this is. Maybe by making a simple analogy via replacing normal Asgardians w/ normal Silver City angels, you can elucidate.

Originally posted by ODG
I was referring to other posters. Not me. Learn English, please.

There's nobody better than me on this site ever since I arrived here. I have taken everyone at their best and trounced them. You're welcome to try me on any topic you want.

Or, at the very least, don't get so obviously triggered once you've had a taste of actual interaction with the one KMC poster you've been chasing after for 10+ years. That's exactly what you did here after being thoroughly undressed way back in Dec 2011:
https://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=13666559&highlight=bash+game+userid%3A133437#post13666559

Hahaha dude, you even remember the exact words in the posts thirteen ****ing years ago, get off deez nutz.

Me chasing you? I barely even remember our interaction other than the fact that you were really stupid.

I mean, you unignored me almost right away the very next month because you couldn't help yourself but trying to rewrite history like you never did? Bruh, you stink of desperation at saving face. Why would I want your attention? I put you on ignore for 10+ years, so uhhh... other way innit? How many times did I reply to your posts or namedrop "abihilegend" since I put you on ignore in Dec 2011?
https://www.killermovies.com/forums/search.php?action=showresults&q=abhilegend+userid%3A77143

Sure thing Jan, you literally searched for the words in the posts thirteen years ago but I'm the one obsessed here.

That's 12x over 12+ years. Now let's do a search and see how many times you've replied to my posts or namedropped "ODG" since I put you on ignore in Dec 2011? Let's see:
https://www.killermovies.com/forums/search.php?s=&action=showresults&q=ODG+userid%3A133437&sortby=&sortorder=&pagenumber=1

Good lord, that's beyond 200x over 12+ years. Actually, more than that because the results hit the limit.

Your stupidity gave a lasting impression, what can I say.

Keep pretending you aint the b1tch begging for attention. laughcry

Dude literally remembered my post from thirteen years ago LMFAO. Get a life weirdo.

Originally posted by abhilegend
There's nobody better than me on this site ever since I arrived here.

Originally posted by ODG

How about this, I know more about Thor than you, more about Silver Surfer than Darthgoober and more about Thanos than Quanchi.

Like I said, it's an open challenge, I can beat you in pretty much any topic in comics you can think of. You could always run away from me like the coward that you are.

^ I'll admit that you, more than anybody, pore through Thor, Silver Surfer and Thanos comics more obsessively because of your pathetic compulsion to dig up low feats to reverse-inflate Superman.

But your biased compulsion does not equate to actual knowledge per se. You read comics through a myopic lens that nobody here on KMC considers objective. And it taints everything you end up storing in that smooth brain of your's.

Having said that, I never knew you tooted your own horn this much. Is this a characteristic you developed over the 10+ years since I ignored you? It's rather unseemly. Surely, I cannot be blamed for that. It must be that other KMC posters mercilessly slapped you around for a decade to give you such an inferiority complex.