Originally posted by leonidas
yeah it's a quick draw (and it's hard not to favor a high level tp in a quick draw) though i don't think anyone can stop wanda--you could give jean the pf and it likely wouldn't matter at this point.
Sue vs Emma Frost, a top tier telepath:
By the by - Sue's FF blocking the Ultimate Nullifier:
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
By the by - Sue's FF blocking the Ultimate Nullifier:
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Didn't she put Cassandra Nova in her place, while bragging about how the Phoenix Force was merely holding back her true potential? 😂
Did she? I don't remember that.
All I remember was that Cassandra had her on the ropes, and then someone else jumped in and infected Cassandra with nanites that forced her to have empathy.
But still, the fact that she was able to go toe-to-toe with Cassandra Nova and not be instantly dominated is very impressive.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I don't think there's much of a muchness between Sue and a high-level TP/TK user, really.
given the speed of thought feats by marvel's high end tp users you'd have a very hard time convincing me of that. some tp feats (both marvel and dc) dwarf the speed of light. love to see feats from sue that would place her thought speed on that level.
Originally posted by leonidas
given the speed of thought feats by marvel's high end tp users you'd have a very hard time convincing me of that. some tp feats (both marvel and dc) dwarf the speed of light. love to see feats from sue that would place her thought speed on that level.
Does Marvel say speed of thought differs?
In DC, speed of light is faster.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
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she caught some guys falling from a building? i mean does that mean every time spiderman swings under and catches a falling person he's moving at the speed of thought...?
but yeah speed of thought is definitively ftl in marvel (and in dc i'd say). that scene in the ultimates solidified it but there are too many examples that make it obvious. nate and charles have many feats that support it. even things like massive information downloads. in dc saturn girl and manhunter have sent thoughts out massive distances much faster than light.
it would take....a lot more than catching someone falling to suggest sue has the thought speed of a high end tp. a LOT more...
sure the flash says that but we have scans of tp users in dc LITERALLY sending their thoughts out across the universe or (if you ask abii) the multiverse. instantly. see saturn girl...or more recently jonn who cast his thoughts and mind beyond zeptoseconds and planck time.... those feats blatantly contradict the flash's words--although flash is obviously something else altogether.
as for sue's powers--sure she operates/reaches out with her power at the speed of thought. by that definition so does...anyone whose powers are activated with a thought? 😕 like magik's teleportation for instance. or old school ms marvel who can apparently move/react with the speed of thought...or my personal fave, mr fantastic can also move at the speed of thought! speed blitzing the super skrulll! lol classic. (too lazy to upload the image--google mr fanatstic speed of thought in images and its the first one).
anyway, if you want to cling to the literal definition of that scan and conflate its intent that's fine and on you. it's as consequential as the loki instance or the mr fantastic instance though. at least imo. and it's a literal universe away from the support high end tp users have. but good news for loki fans and reed fans though. 👆