Superman vs New Genesis

superman is trapped in an illusion he cannot escape from. he sees new genesis as apokolips and a parademon has just killed lois and fled to "apokolips". he sees all new gods as their apokoliptian variations. he is intent on destroying everyone and everything.

can the new gods stop him?

imagine the same scenario but this time it was marvel asgard.

new gods and asgardians have 30 minutes of foreknowledge before he arrives.

IF you feel he needs it he can grab his phantom zone projector.

Can't they just boomtube him back to earth, trapping him there?

In a revenge plot, he would be acting out of his concept of hope role, and probably couldnt draw his full power.
In a story where he's the very idea of hope and he sets to a task, nothing can stop him.

In this story, he'll fight it up with Orion for a bit, then Highfather will whammy him somehow and make him see shit right.

and Asgard dies. 😖hifty:

Hmm, who is around to fight him on New Genesis? Asgard, it doesn't matter, he will flatten everyone there

Orion would probably take him under these conditions.

the scenario is unbreakable. 😐

anyway boom tube bfr could work if anyone is fast enough to hit him with it.

but let's say bfr is off.

Originally posted by carver9
Orion would probably take him under these conditions.

yeah... c'mon carv. ds and i know you're better than that. 👆

We have seen a compromised Superman, under the same conditions.

Originally posted by carver9
We have seen a compromised Superman, under the same conditions.

Sounds like Thing could indeed beat Hulk....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sounds like Thing could indeed beat Hulk....

I get confused as to when mind controlled characters are allowed or not.

Anyway, so as to not derail Leo's fine thread further, he beats both when he's in his 'Final Crisis Phuck You Darkseid You Killed My Best Buddy Batman' mindset.

👆

Would be hilarious if he faces the Destroyer, and he just uses backwards magic to pull the host spirit out

If Superman is in a bloodlusted/all-out mindset, then I don't seen them stopping him... Unless New Genesis gets really creative with the Motherboxes.

All of New Genesis? Surely not on his own.

But he could probably do serious damage in Asgard these days.

Oh I missed there's 30mins prep. Hmm. That changes my mind, I think....

^ Prep is a huge factor for me also... Mainly because of the MBs.