Originally posted by leonidas
the flip side of that is that carv was wrong. is that really worth bringing up? to that end i'm officially declaring this a bully-free thread! 👆 so feel free to post whatever you like carv without that bully ds taking anymore of your lunch money. you're welcome.
Originally posted by leonidaswell, that lasted all of 10 posts
i'm about to remove the no-bullying clause in this thread.
Carver inspires that in people 👆
Originally posted by leonidas
lol superman. is. simply. more. powerful. than. orion. like, in every way. evidence? their collective histories and feats. i'm about to remove the no-bullying clause in this thread. but by all means if you think orion has a feat anywhere from any time that superman can't actually top, please display it. it could be fun 👆
Don't think we'll get a reply to this. Carver will run. Sad!
Superman might have better fts, but we can not ignore their fights. We have one fight with them stalemating. We have another fight with Orion actually matching a sun amped Superman, and we have another fight with Superman beating him with an amp.
Thor has FAR better fts than Black Adam but no one here would ever say that Thor would slaughter Adam. Hulk has better fts than Doomsday, but I 100% know you all will not give him the edge.
You all only look at fts when you wanna look at them because most of you are all bias AF.
lol i'm an orion fan but i also know that if superman really needed to beat orion, he'd easily handle him. pis? maybe. but pis can work in both directions carv. orion is awesome but no one is superman. thor can beat adam in many feats except a key one--speed. so no, most wouldn't say thor slaughters adam. i'd take thor for a slight majority though. probably. maybe.
Originally posted by leonidas
lol i'm an orion fan but i also know that if superman really needed to beat orion, he'd easily handle him. pis? maybe. but pis can work in both directions carv. orion is awesome but no one is superman. thor can beat adam in many feats except a key one--speed. so no, most wouldn't say thor slaughters adam. i'd take thor for a slight majority though. probably. maybe.
Originally posted by leonidas
head-to-head is also a pretty terrible way to judge relative power at times. if we went by head-to-head only, well, a lot of people come out looking pretty terrible lol
Originally posted by leonidas
lol i'm an orion fan but i also know that if superman really needed to beat orion, he'd easily handle him. pis? maybe. but pis can work in both directions carv. orion is awesome but no one is superman. thor can beat adam in many feats except a key one--speed. so no, most wouldn't say thor slaughters adam. i'd take thor for a slight majority though. probably. maybe.
Wonder Woman can handle him easily as well, huh? Since her fts piss on his. Say yes, Leo.
i'd take ww over orion... 😕 but i guess that means deathstroke can also put up a great fight against orion...? gotta be careful if you wanna use 1 on 1 match ups as examples of relative power. i'm regretting my anti-bullying stance. if anyone would like to start a list of 1 on 1 battles where someone clearly more powerful struggled in a 1 on 1 scenario that could be fun. maybe dispel this as the ultimate avenue of comparison many think it is..... i have a few in mind. i wonder if anyone has some i'm forgetting.
Originally posted by leonidas
i'd take ww over orion... 😕 but i guess that means deathstroke can also put up a great fight against orion...? gotta be careful if you wanna use 1 on 1 match ups as examples of relative power. i'm regretting my anti-bullying stance. if anyone would like to start a list of 1 on 1 battles where someone clearly more powerful struggled in a 1 on 1 scenario that could be fun. maybe dispel this as the ultimate avenue of comparison many think it is..... i have a few in mind. i wonder if anyone has some i'm forgetting.
Originally posted by leonidas
i'd take ww over orion... 😕 but i guess that means deathstroke can also put up a great fight against orion...? gotta be careful if you wanna use 1 on 1 match ups as examples of relative power. i'm regretting my anti-bullying stance. if anyone would like to start a list of 1 on 1 battles where someone clearly more powerful struggled in a 1 on 1 scenario that could be fun. maybe dispel this as the ultimate avenue of comparison many think it is..... i have a few in mind. i wonder if anyone has some i'm forgetting.
There's lowballing vs actual legit fights. We have at the minimum 4 fights between these two that always ended in a stalemate. How many fights would it take for us to look at it as those two being peers, twelve?
Anyways, I'm satisfied that you feel WW would smoke Orion.
Philo posted fights trying to prove that Aquaman and Wonder Woman are equals and even a mod chimed in and said that they are not that far apart. This was based entirely off of fights between the two. Most agreed with them. This is why I say KMC just debate as unorthodox as possible...
https://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=654168&pagenumber=11
Originally posted by carver9
Philo posted fights trying to prove that Aquaman and Wonder Woman are equals and even a mod chimed in and said that they are not that far apart. This was based entirely off of fights between the two. Most agreed with them. This is why I say KMC just debate as unorthodox as possible...https://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=654168&pagenumber=11
Guess you missed this then:
Originally posted by Philosophía
👆Within the comic books, ever since Flashpoint, whenever they get into a 1v1 it's shown as rather competitive. And while she doesn't fight as she would on the forum (more speed, more weapons, more skill etc.), where she'd beat him handily based on feats, I figured it's worth showing the opinions writer have of him, both directly and indirectly. Mera has gone under the radar, but I think she's gotten the same type of push as Arthur. As you said, in terms of common opponents, they do comparatively well with some exceptions, while Diana's higher end fights (Zoom and the like) would be hard for him to match.
This is a really good idea for a thread, so I hope it will stay active. Fresh change from 'highest of highs/lowest of lows vs lowest of lows/highest of highs' discussions.