Originally posted by carver9
How fast do you have to be to do that? She's been sl fast that she was as fast as Amazo who was said to be faster than Superman. She even blitz him before he could react. Does that count?
Well that only makes her as fast as Black Canary and Black Lightning, Batman, Hal Jordan etc all of whom were cutting his legs off, jumping on him, screaming into his ears etc, so that's not that fast.
So no, it doesn't count, sadly. Unless all those characters are also as fast? Let me know.
Edit: here you can clearly see he's obviously not thinking quickly in the fight.
He's literally getting entire words and phrases out his lips before his own mind can complete words lmao.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85His thinking speed - in THIS fight - doesn't seem to match his talking speed, lol.
That's not the scene I'm talking about. Lol... I'm talking about the scene where she soloed Amazo and it was outright said that he is faster than Superman and as fast as her. She then proceeded at blitzing through a roof and blitzing him before he could react. She also slapped all of his heat vision blast out of the air at super speed.
Originally posted by carver9
That's not the scene I'm talking about. Lol... I'm talking about the scene where she soloed Amazo and it was outright said that he is faster than Superman and as fast as her. She then proceeded at blitzing through a roof and blitzing him before he could react. She also slapped all of his heat vision blast out of the air at super speed.
Post the scans, let's see them. I hope it's not the one where Hal blows a hole through him. Guessing Hal has lightspeed reflexes but let's see.
Youre contradicting yourself. In one hand youre saying Superman can't be touched due to super speed shown on panel, and I give you the same thing with evidence of Wonder Woman being faster and you want to discredit it. Wonder Woman was explicitly shown to be fast and she blocked a number of heat vision blast coming at her at super speed. This>>>your Zod ft.
Originally posted by carver9
and I give you the same thing with evidence of Wonder Woman being faster and you want to discredit it.
Originally posted by carver9
Youre contradicting yourself. In one hand youre saying Superman can't be touched due to super speed shown on panel, and I give you the same thing with evidence of Wonder Woman being faster and you want to discredit it. Wonder Woman was explicitly shown to be fast and she blocked a number of heat vision blast coming at her at super speed. This>>>your Zod ft.
But in your example, who said Amazo was faster than Superman, as fast as WW?
Was it WW herself?
Because in the same fight, we saw a powerless Zatanna speedblitzing (lmao) Amazo:
Before he could react, even. The only thing was she didn't harm him, but she was still fast enough to hit him and deflect his killing blow.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Didn't another comic later clarify that in raw speed Superman is actually faster than Diana?
The difference is just that she is more skilled than Superman, so some actions she can do without thinking
I think youre getting your comics mixed up. This is what I'm talking about...
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But in your example, who said Amazo was faster than Superman, as fast as WW?Was it WW herself?
Because in the same fight, we saw a powerless Zatanna speedblitzing (lmao) Amazo:
Before he could react, even. The only thing was she didn't harm him, but she was still fast enough to hit him and deflect his killing blow.
You can't take away from the comic, Saint. Lol. Heck, even in the speed showing you're mentioning with Zod and Superman, both got hit by things that doesn't have any super speed.
Originally posted by carver9
You can't take away from the comic, Saint. Lol. Heck, even in the speed showing you're mentioning with Zod and Superman, both got hit by things that doesn't have any super speed.
Am I taking anything away? I am saying Canary, a powerless Zatanna, Hawkgirl, Red Tornado etc are all fast enough to hit and tag Amazo.
Is this not PIS? Or is Amazo just fast when you want him to be, then slow when not?
Originally posted by carver9
I think youre getting your comics mixed up. This is what I'm talking about...
Which is true. As the scan you posted here is from Justice League of America issue 24
And the raw speed scan is from issue 27
https://ibb.co/6Hn8JNf
Both issues are written by the same writer(Dwayne McDuffie)
Originally posted by carver9
I'm not defending other JLA hitting him because it happens, even in Superman best speed showings. All I know is Amazo used his speed during his fight with Wonder Woman and she said it was faster than Clarks. We even see Amazo moments before this blitzing a refreshed Clark.
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He was slow before the WW fight (when Hawkgirl saved Firestorm out of his attack). Then was fast (when firing HV at WW). Then was slow when Hal smashed a hole through him. Then was slow when Canary and Zatanna and Hawkgirl smashed his head to pieces. Then was fast when fighting WW. Then was slow again when Zatanna conjured up Red Tornado.
Gotcha. Fast and slow, depending on what we want. 👆
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Not really, as you can notice in my original post
"Didn't *another* comic *later* clarify"Which is true. As the scan you posted here is from Justice League of America issue 24
And the raw speed scan is from issue 27
https://ibb.co/6Hn8JNfBoth issues are written by the same writer(Dwayne McDuffie)
Aaahhhh, this scene that also proves that her reactions>>>>Clark. Batman even agreed. Thanks for posting it.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
👆He was slow before the WW fight (when Hawkgirl saved Firestorm out of his attack). Then was fast (when firing HV at WW). Then was slow when Hal smashed a hole through him. Then was slow when Canary and Zatanna and Hawkgirl smashed his head to pieces. Then was fast when fighting WW. Then was slow again when Zatanna conjured up Red Tornado.
Gotcha. Fast and slow, depending on what we want. 👆
Whats that issue and issue number? I'm also, saving this thread, lol.
Originally posted by carver9
Aaahhhh, this scene that also proves that her reactions>>>>Clark. Batman even agreed. Thanks for posting it.
The difference is some actions Wonder Woman can do without thinking because muscle memory
But when things come down to something she doesn't encounter before, Superman is faster. Or something she and Clark are both familiar with, such like running, Clark is faster etc