Gladiator vs Orion

Started by Senor Cage10 pages

Flying at mach 1 isn't super speed. Good for a Marvel feat, but really slow in the DCU. 😂

Flying across multiple galaxies in less than a blink of an eye isn't superspeed? Lol

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Flying across multiple galaxies in less than a blink of an eye isn't superspeed? Lol

Every top tier has feats like that.

OK? So he has the feats is what I hear yall saying.

But too inconsistent. Glads has bullrushed Spidy, Darkhawk, Gambit, etc.. all have dodged him. Speed won't be an issue

Originally posted by Senor Cage
But too inconsistent. Glads has bullrushed Spidy, Darkhawk, Gambit, etc.. all have dodged him. Speed won't be an issue

What Herald ISNT inconsistent? Inconsistency only matters with you all when it benefits you're argument which makes your debating style inconsistent.

Glads is the biggest one

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
OK? So he has the feats is what I hear yall saying.

Yeah he does.

They just pale when compared to Orion's:

Originally posted by Delta1938
Orion flies from New Genesis to Earth in less than a heartbeat.

https://i.imgur.com/FKOH2bQ.jpeg

Even if I ridiculously lowball it to just half the size of the universe, which which is 93 billion light-years(so 46.5 lightyears)--

https://www.britannica.com/topic/observable-universe

And lowball the time frame to the low end heart beat of a top condition athlete (40 beats per minute, so let's do 2 seconds since Orion took less than that)--

https://www.forbes.com/health/wellness/normal-heart-rate-by-age/

That's roughly 220 septillion times lightspeed. So so even with this ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE DISRESPECT to Orion's feat, it's still over 7 quadrillion times faster than Gladiator flying at 100 times lightspeed.

And still, 200 lightyears in minutes compared to the massive disrespect of 46.5 billion loghtyears in 2 seconds? Yeah, still weak sauce.

Yes, it's old. But Carver (i.e. the OP) is allowing old-ass comics from the Pre-Crisis era, and as he confirms on this page, inconsistencies occur all the time 👆

Sadly, Orion only use disks now. I don't think either of us are dumb enough to think Hulk and Orion could fly even though both of them have done so in the past...


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Originally posted by carver9
Sadly, Orion only use disks now. I don't think either of us are dumb enough to think Hulk and Orion could fly even though both of them have done so in the past...

🙁 Hulk is not in this thread, keep it to the characters in your thread, please.

But have you ever actually, you know, READ that comic? Or have you, like many, just looked at them in passing?

Because the comic explicitly makes clear that his leaps are what he's doing:

You can even see Rick's words ('WE'RE FLYING!!!'😉 but the narration is clear its a leap - a very powerful leap, to be sure, but a leap all the same.

But I am sure you knew that, right?

Sorry Carvy.

Now, if you had something similar to this for Orion, perhaps you might have a point? But let's keep it to the characters in the thread, save you from further embarrasment.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Orion flies from New Genesis to Earth in less than a heartbeat.

https://i.imgur.com/FKOH2bQ.jpeg

Even if I ridiculously lowball it to just half the size of the universe, which which is 93 billion light-years(so 46.5 lightyears)--

https://www.britannica.com/topic/observable-universe

And lowball the time frame to the low end heart beat of a top condition athlete (40 beats per minute, so let's do 2 seconds since Orion took less than that)--

https://www.forbes.com/health/wellness/normal-heart-rate-by-age/

That's roughly 220 septillion times lightspeed. So so even with this ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE DISRESPECT to Orion's feat, it's still over 7 quadrillion times faster than Gladiator flying at 100 times lightspeed.

And still, 200 lightyears in minutes compared to the massive disrespect of 46.5 billion loghtyears in 2 seconds? Yeah, still weak sauce.

"Lowball" doesn't even begin to describe what you did there, lol. The size of the DC universe is canonically at least 200 TRILLION light years. So instead of using 46.5 billion, you actually need to use 100 trillion to get your massively disrespectful, low-end figure as intended. 👆

Originally posted by carver9
I'm using him flying 100 times the speed of light.

So just to be clear: you are saying flying speed =fighting speed, correct?

If not, please say why you even brought it up?

Can we all agree that Orion is the better warrior/ fighter

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So just to be clear: you are saying flying speed =fighting speed, correct?

If not, please say why you even brought it up?

He has the hand speed as well. You should go back and look at his Hyperion fight.

Originally posted by Facee
Can we all agree that Orion is the better warrior/ fighter

I agree. Sadly he cant keep up with Gladiator who would blitz him to death as soon as the fight starts.

Originally posted by carver9
He has the hand speed as well. You should go back and look at his Hyperion fight.

But why bring up flight speed at all? Is this a race?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
🙁 Hulk is not in this thread, keep it to the characters in your thread, please.

But have you ever actually, you know, READ that comic? Or have you, like many, just looked at them in passing?

Because the comic explicitly makes clear that his leaps are what he's doing:

You can even see Rick's words ('WE'RE FLYING!!!'😉 but the narration is clear its a leap - a very powerful leap, to be sure, but a leap all the same.

But I am sure you knew that, right?

Sorry Carvy.

Now, if you had something similar to this for Orion, perhaps you might have a point? But let's keep it to the characters in the thread, save you from further embarrasment.

lmao

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
🙁 Hulk is not in this thread, keep it to the characters in your thread, please.

But have you ever actually, you know, READ that comic? Or have you, like many, just looked at them in passing?

Because the comic explicitly makes clear that his leaps are what he's doing:

You can even see Rick's words ('WE'RE FLYING!!!'😉 but the narration is clear its a leap - a very powerful leap, to be sure, but a leap all the same.

But I am sure you knew that, right?

Sorry Carvy.

Now, if you had something similar to this for Orion, perhaps you might have a point? But let's keep it to the characters in the thread, save you from further embarrasment.

The scan i posted literally has him turning in the air, lmmfao. What kind of jump allows people to maneuver in the air? Educate me.

Yep, it's artistic licence, the narration clearly states he's leaping. As to why the art looks like that, ask Kirby lol. But the words are super clear.

We are not going to throw this off as an artist error. Again, he's turning and maneuvering in the air. Explain how he's doing that. The scan even say he is flying.