ozz! hope all's well man. this thread has been done many times if you search it. usually the first one is pretty close but i think bats takes it more often than not if they're in street clothes. bats has too much in the second. too many 'common' things for him and his typical arsenal is just more powerful than dd's.
Originally posted by Smurph
If it's Elektra as Daredevil I think she can take round 1. Matt maybe too, if his push has stuck.Bruce for sure wins with gadgets though.
i see elektra in h2h as matt without a filter. taht's why she usually comes across as the better fighter. i think matt>elektra if he REALLY needs it though. but i agree--both can take bruce for a few if it's straight street clothes. maybe 3/10. bruce for the majority though.
I don't think that's unreasonable but I do think Elektra's (more) superhuman since Zdarsky's run
Originally posted by Smurph
Plus this stuff from the same series
I know Bats has also been getting a push but I don't see him doing the same as casually.
She also took out Count Nefaria but I'm just gonna lol about that stupidity.
Originally posted by Smurph
I don't think that's unreasonable but I do think Elektra's (more) superhuman since Zdarsky's runI know Bats has also been getting a push but I don't see him doing the same as casually.
She also took out Count Nefaria but I'm just gonna lol about that stupidity.
I see your bullet, and raise you Superman's baseball 😈 which even Jon couldn't hit.
Originally posted by Smurph
If it's Elektra as Daredevil I think she can take round 1. Matt maybe too, if his push has stuck.Bruce for sure wins with gadgets though.
Originally posted by Smurph
I don't think that's unreasonable but I do think Elektra's (more) superhuman since Zdarsky's runI know Bats has also been getting a push but I don't see him doing the same as casually.
She also took out Count Nefaria but I'm just gonna lol about that stupidity.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I see your bullet, and raise you Superman's baseball 😈 which even Jon couldn't hit.
Originally posted by Smurph
👆Nonetheless, I don't see Batman moving as fast mid fight. At least, not as casually and not without PIS involved.
The sheer dissonance is ****ing hilarious.
Katana slices six bullets in one swipe.
Five bullets
Six bullets
Might be the fastest street level character in comics.
Oh, is he arguing that it's PIS for Elektra?
I mean, those are three moments in as many issues. The intent and consistency both seem clear to me. And it lines up with her boost since 2021/2 or so.
As for Bruce, I don't see the showings as remotely comparable. I love a good "because Batman" moment as much as anyone though. 👆
Originally posted by Smurph
Oh, is he arguing that it's PIS for Elektra?I mean, those are three moments in as many issues. The intent and consistency both seem clear to me. And it lines up with her boost since 2021/2 or so.
As for Bruce, I don't see the showings as remotely comparable. I love a good "because Batman" moment as much as anyone though. 👆
i mean, there is also him dodging HV after it's fired....which you have seen. But in Batman (2016):
https://i.imgur.com/4E4PhCa.jpeg
And:
https://i.imgur.com/Kgk2UxW.jpeg (he was bleeding before the gunfire, so its not from the bullets)
And:
https://i.imgur.com/W1Bp9LU.png
And:
https://i.imgur.com/4ngV6zb.jpeg
And there's the baseball scene above. 5 moments in as many issues, from one series alone (so not looking at Detective Comics, or Batman confidential, or Batman (1940), or any JL related titles, or any - you get the point.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85👆 Those are all good, but except for the baseball scene they're not as good as Elektra moving her arm faster than the bullet fired point blank in front of her.
i mean, there is also him dodging HV after it's fired....which you have seen. But in Batman (2016):
https://i.imgur.com/4E4PhCa.jpegAnd:
https://i.imgur.com/Kgk2UxW.jpeg (he was bleeding before the gunfire, so its not from the bullets)And:
https://i.imgur.com/W1Bp9LU.pngAnd:
https://i.imgur.com/4ngV6zb.jpegAnd there's the baseball scene above. 5 moments in as many issues, from one series alone (so not looking at Detective Comics, or Batman confidential, or Batman (1940), or any JL related titles, or any - you get the point.
And the baseball scene is great, but it's one of those "impossible but possible because Batman" scenes that I see as being much more about Batman's cool factor than about the speed of his arms.
