Originally posted by abhilegend
Let's see feats from Thanos Superman can't replicate. 🥱🥱🥱
lol so for all future similar responses from you: superman has been around since 1938 and been the star of hundreds of of titles, both teams and solo. no one in the history of comics has more appearances and consequently no one is matching superman in feats. maybe obvious, but of course i have to state the obvious for you lol but just because supes has a 10000x more appearances to draw from doesn't mean we throw out common sense. since you can't even see the light from the star of common sense, talking to you about this is pointless.
(insert that's what i thought/snark lol)
Originally posted by leonidas
lol so for all future similar responses from you: superman has been around since 1938 and been the star of hundreds of of titles, both teams and solo. no one in the history of comics has more appearances and consequently no one is matching superman in feats. maybe obvious, but of course i have to state the obvious for you lol but just because supes has a 10000x more appearances to draw from doesn't mean we throw out common sense. since you can't even see the light from the star of common sense, talking to you about this is pointless.(insert that's what i thought/snark lol)
Alfred Pennyworth probably has more showings than General Eiling and/or Kurse combined.
No one's giving him the win based on feats ,though
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Alfred Pennyworth probably has more showings than General Eiling and/or Kurse combined.No one's giving him the win based on feats ,though
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A better way of approaching this would've been Wolverine. Wolverine has more fts than Kalibak and based off that, an argument can be made on Wolverine killing Kalibak during the onset of a fight even though there's a huge difference in physical power. Add Mongul in there as well.
Originally posted by leonidas
lol so for all future similar responses from you: superman has been around since 1938 and been the star of hundreds of of titles, both teams and solo. no one in the history of comics has more appearances and consequently no one is matching superman in feats. maybe obvious, but of course i have to state the obvious for you lol but just because supes has a 10000x more appearances to draw from doesn't mean we throw out common sense. since you can't even see the light from the star of common sense, talking to you about this is pointless.(insert that's what i thought/snark lol)
Originally posted by carver9
🤦🏿A better way of approaching this would've been Wolverine. Wolverine has more fts than Kalibak and based off that, an argument can be made on Wolverine killing Kalibak during the onset of a fight even though there's a huge difference in physical power. Add Mongul in there as well.
Originally posted by carver9
🤦🏿A better way of approaching this would've been Wolverine. Wolverine has more fts than Kalibak and based off that, an argument can be made on Wolverine killing Kalibak during the onset of a fight even though there's a huge difference in physical power. Add Mongul in there as well.
But Alfred DOES have more showings, though, since the 1940s. Can't ignore that 😂
Wolverine has more showings than The Living Tribunal. Gonna use that?
Originally posted by carver9
Kurse stomps Eiling and Superman.
Why do you believe Kurse is stronger than Superman when Superman's feats are vastly superior?
Why do you believe Kurse is even remotely comparable to Superman in combat speed and perception? Kurse doesn't even have microsecond-level reactions or perception. Superman has perceived a fraction of a nanosecond as several minutes.
Originally posted by leonidas
kurse may be stronger but it's tough to see pure strength being enough to ko eiling. if kurse got really creative and like, drove his thumbs into the generals brain or something maybe he could put him out. the explosive chip took him down in suicide squad so his brain is vulnerable. just not sure kurse could or would do that. in general (heh) i'd take eiling after a massively long fight.
I also recall, actually, that Eiling had no pain receptors when he faced off against the JLA....yet was in pain when chained up by Waller (who also blew his arm off, and it took days to regrow, as opposed to regrowing instantly).
Did they ever explain the discrepancy, and OP, which version would you be using and standard equipment?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I also recall, actually, that Eiling had no pain receptors when he faced off against the JLA....yet was in pain when chained up by Waller (who also blew his arm off, and it took days to regrow, as opposed to regrowing instantly).Did they ever explain the discrepancy, and OP, which version would you be using and standard equipment?
IIRC, Wade used multiple Shaggy Men bodies. Some of them weren't the original body.
Based on canon, has Shaggy Man or General Eiling ever been KOd?
They have, just to cut through it. Superman himself KOd Eiling showing that yes he’s nearly indestructible but he can still be put to sleep.This is why he loses. He doesn’t have the strength or intimate intel on Kurse in terms of vulnerabilities unless stated right?
Kurse was 4x Stronger than Thor. He’s stronger than Eiling, he’s more durable than Eiling, and a haymaker from him to Eilings head is all that’s needed here. Eiling isn’t going to be the one doing the pushing around. Nor would his physical attacks alone be able to damage his armor. What makes it an even steeper hill for Eiling to climb IS that they’re fighting in a featureless environment. They’re just standing there going ham on each other. Eiling isn’t the Hulk, he doesn’t have infinite scaling which adds to his toughness. Kurse would turn Eiling into a mess. He’d be on the run.
Damage outmuscles Shaggy Man, Wonder Wonder showed that he can be KOd. Superman showed that Eiling could be KOd.
I don’t know what the consensus is on Thor in terms of strength level, but I assure you that Kurse would be mercilessly throwing him around. It would begin to look like one of those old Friday the 13th movies.
Originally posted by leonidas
kurse may be stronger but it's tough to see pure strength being enough to ko eiling. if kurse got really creative and like, drove his thumbs into the generals brain or something maybe he could put him out. the explosive chip took him down in suicide squad so his brain is vulnerable. just not sure kurse could or would do that. in general (heh) i'd take eiling after a massively long fight.
You nailed it right there Leo, his brain is vulnerable to high impacts. They straight up went and did away with that with the Hulk. You see unlike the Hulk while in control of his mental faculties, had his entire face and a potion of his head fractured, and he laughed it off. Eiling can’t do that.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nope. Didn't happen there. ChatGPT failed you.
Fair enough, and to further shine light upon your deductions, my goal is to find out if Eiling can take planetary plus levels of strength, because that is the level that Kurse is at. Yes he is actually stronger than Superman was when the Justice League faced Eiling. Regular non sun dipped, because he forgot that he could do that, or was convinced that Eiling didn’t need that amount of power to be stopped, or whatever.
On a generic battlefield that has no iron or weapons all we have are two strong guys one regens, but is unable to physically harm his stronger more durable opponent who can rip his arms or legs off and beat him with them, but he will just keep healing unless he is displaced or outright disintegrated. Kurse can not do that but the General has never been hit by power like Kurse.
Based on Shaggy Man’s ability to be KOd I drew a parallel. There may be none. Eiling placing his consciousness within Shaggy Man’s body, a body shown multiple times to be susceptible to KO, may have become immune may be a possibility. It doesn’t track but it could be.
However there is a limit to everything. Thor desire detractors has always been in the same tier strength as non sun amped Superman. This is seen throughout his history whether in battle with Hulk, Hyperion, Gladiator or the Surfer. Now Kurse is 4x that.
Stalemate? I gave Kurse 6/10. Eiling can’t actually harm Kurse in a vanilla environment or with the power of his fists. So Kurse tears him apart, Eiling heals and Kurse tears him apart for centuries?