Originally posted by Smurphof course it does. There’s a reason Tony and Sentinals both developed nonferrous capabilities to deal with him and he needed to get creative about dealing with them.
Nonferrous doesn't mean dick to Magneto though. And Kryptonian metals don't out-stat Adamantium or Mysterium.
Either way, Cyborgs Heat Vision or ION canon would likely one shot him, shield or no, as both completely disrupt magnetic force/fields.
Originally posted by leonidas
that's an odd setting then...
Yup.
https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Hyperbolic_Time_Chamber
Originally posted by leonidas
hv disrupts magnetic shields? supes shouldn't ever have trouble with Dr Polaris then but we've seen that isn't always a stomp.
Maybe he meant X-ray vision?
Edit: or maybe this:
Originally posted by carver9
Im obviously not using the gravity manipulation in this thread. I chose the hyperbolic time chamber to remove any kind of metal from tbe battle field. No gravity changes in this fight. Please continue.
Wait.....so you don't want any metal? What about Cyborg Superman who has metal, or Magneto's helmet?
Also, the gravity changes aren't the worst part of the time chamber.
Originally posted by JuntaiNo, it doesn't. Magneto's power isn't just magnetism, it's manipulation of EM forces, and he has plenty of feats of manipulating non-metals. Ferrous-ness only really matters to the movie versions.
of course it does. There’s a reason Tony and Sentinals both developed nonferrous capabilities to deal with him and he needed to get creative about dealing with them.Either way, Cyborgs Heat Vision or ION canon would likely one shot him, shield or no, as both completely disrupt magnetic force/fields.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wait.....so you don't want any metal? What about Cyborg Superman who has metal, or Magneto's helmet?Also, the gravity changes aren't the worst part of the time chamber.
Im talking about cars, etc... I want the battle field to be nothing but the two of them fighting with their powerset. I just don't want the effects of the chamber to play a role in this battle. I don't want to spend pages talking about the chamber. I want it to be these two fighting with no outside interference or anything tipping the scale (external metals) for them to win.
Originally posted by Smurph
No, it doesn't. Magneto's power isn't just magnetism, it's manipulation of EM forces, and he has plenty of feats of manipulating non-metals. Ferrous-ness only really matters to the movie versions.
Originally posted by leonidas
and we all know how well rl science holds up in comics lol you think magneto couldn't withstand johnny storm's Nova attack?non-ferrous materials hinder mags when the plot calls for it--like most things.
Read some modern x-men comics.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Lol, read some comics with modern magneto.
Sun's surface level heat has casually oneshotted him. Havok has straight up punched through his shield because his heat was disrupting his shields.Read some modern x-men comics.
Leo hasn't read comics that aren't worth at least $1,000.
cool. (and you're right about values lol) I assume he was at full strength? his shields have also withstood intense heat in the past though. multiple lightning strikes is an obvious example. sunfire's powers which can reach huge temps as well. the Phoenix flames from Jean. I'm not of the belief hv would penetrate the shield regardless of that showing. again, see Dr Polaris.
He was indeed at full strength.
As for Dr Polaris, I mean.....Superman has superspeed but Toyman somehow exists. Forum fights, Full Capacity, different characters with different mindsets, take your pick.
I find it interesting that we have a clear cut example here though of magnetic fields being affected by heat and it's .... disregarded for other showings.
Yet Sue blocking psionics is ignored for.....other showings.
I didn't say I thought Cassie wins, just that I feel it's more in her favour. as for mags--we have exactly a SINGLE showing of heat affecting him against many many examples of it not. not sure why one showing should be considered the end of the discussion when we have many many examples to the contrary. i'm not holding it against anyone who thinks the Borg wins. I said at the start I didn't think it was a stomp. I still feel it isn't. I def think his shield would hold long enough for him to mount an offense against his metal. could he dismantle him fast enough? not sure. also unsure if his shield could stop Borg from getting inside his helmet. enough what ifs to say this isn't a stomp though for me.
Originally posted by leonidas
I didn't say I thought Cassie wins, just that I feel it's more in her favour. as for mags--we have exactly a SINGLE showing of heat affecting him against many many examples of it not. not sure why one showing should be considered the end of the discussion when we have many many examples to the contrary. i'm not holding it against anyone who thinks the Borg wins. I said at the start I didn't think it was a stomp. I still feel it isn't. I def think his shield would hold long enough for him to mount an offense against his metal. could he dismantle him fast enough? not sure. also unsure if his shield could stop Borg from getting inside his helmet. enough what ifs to say this isn't a stomp though for me.
Same way we have one kinda example of Sue vs a telepath (maybe), against her blocking psionic energy.
Plus he has his ionic cannon as well. And yes, ionic energy can disrupt his EM powers:
Originally posted by Smurph
No, it doesn't. Magneto's power isn't just magnetism, it's manipulation of EM forces, and he has plenty of feats of manipulating non-metals. Ferrous-ness only really matters to the movie versions.
And there are plenty of times non-ferrous objects just defied him. It's not just a movie thing.