Hulk vs Superman vs Thor

Started by DarkSaint854 pages

Originally posted by carver9
I never said it was altered "in some way" during the beginning.

Yup, to created Earth 14112, a different alternate reality to Earth 616. Thus, the Hulk they meet is from Earth 14112, not 616 Hulk. Glad we agree.

Yes, he used the power to merge them back together, and that was it. Where did IN Betweener use his thing to undo the comic cube effects? Thats a pretty big freaking ft if he did that. Show me.

Again, the events being remembered makes it Canon. Whyre you not grasping this?

He does it in this sequence:

It isn't an undoing per se - he selects the doorway back to Earth 616, so Longshot can walk back to the 616 reality, a reality where IB is not head of SHIELD (and never was, Sonja married Bill and Longshot helped them buy their house etc etc:

And a reality where Hulk was never the prisoner of the IB, as the IB never became head of SHIELD and tried capturing people.

Earth 14112 =/= Earth 616.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it doesn't lol.

Just know that im looking for that post that you used against ODG, where Supes broke an alt Wonder Woman neck and him standing in the watch tower talking to Diana about the event. You used it as Canon material saying since Supes remembered, it happened. I will find it

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Yup, to created Earth 14112, a different alternate reality to Earth 616. Thus, the Hulk they meet is from Earth 14112, not 616 Hulk. Glad we agree.

He does it in this sequence:

It isn't an undoing per se - he selects the doorway back to Earth 616, so Longshot can walk back to the 616 reality, a reality where IB is not head of SHIELD (and never was, Sonja married Bill and Longshot helped them buy their house etc etc:

And a reality where Hulk was never the prisoner of the IB, as the IB never became head of SHIELD and tried capturing people.

Earth 14112 =/= Earth 616. [/B]

Thats the thing, everything that happened did happened because it was never deleted. People still remember it all. Also, IB doesn't have the ppwer to overwrite a cosmic cube. He's powerful but not that powerful.

Originally posted by carver9
Thats the thing, everything that happened did happened because it was never deleted. People still remember it all. Also, IB doesn't have the ppwer to overwrite a cosmic cube. He's powerful but not that powerful.

I'm not saying it was deleted, not am I saying the IB overwrote it in my last post?

If you look at the scans, you clearly see him selecting the doorway back to 616 for Longshot. Read my post, please, before replying. I explicitly said It isn't an undoing per se - he selects the doorway back to Earth 616, so Longshot can walk back to the 616 reality,

Earth 14112 still exists. Hulk still exists there

But he's Hulk -14112, not Hulk 616.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm not saying it was deleted, not am I saying the IB overwrote it in my last post?

If you look at the scans, you clearly see him selecting the doorway back to 616 for Longshot. Read my post, please, before replying. I explicitly said It isn't an undoing per se - he selects the doorway back to Earth 616, so Longshot can walk back to the 616 reality,

Earth 14112 still exists. Hulk still exists there

But he's Hulk -14112, not Hulk 616.

Nothing in those scans mention him creating different universes using the doors. Nothing was reversed. Everything remained as is. In Betweener remember every single event that happened including Hulk exhausting his energy. Bye Saint. Im done discussing this Canon event to you. Let me look for this ABHI post. I like proving his hypocritical ways.

Originally posted by carver9
Nothing in those scans mention him creating different universes using the doors. Nothing was reversed. Everything remained as is. In Betweener remember every single event that happened including Hulk exhausting his energy. Bye Saint. Im done discussing this Canon event to you. Let me look for this ABHI post. I like proving his hypocritical ways.

I...never said he created universes??? Wtf man, your attempt at creating weird strawmen arguments is laughable.

IB is selecting the '616 door' for Longshot to walk through, to walk back to the 616 reality. He's not creating the 616 reality lmao. Literally shown here:

So you're saying there is no Earth 14112? That Jennifer's mom simultaneously married Bill and never did, and the IB was once a director of SHIELD in the 616 universe, and Deadpool uses magic etc?

IB remembers using half his power to contain *A* Hulk, I'm not disputing this. On earth 14112.

It's not 616 Hulk though.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I...never said he created universes??? Wtf man, your attempt at creating weird strawmen arguments is laughable.

IB is selecting the '616 door' for Longshot to walk through, to walk back to the 616 reality. He's not creating the 616 reality lmao. Literally shown here:

So you're saying there is no Earth 14112? That Jennifer's mom simultaneously married Bill and never did, and the IB was once a director of SHIELD in the 616 universe, and Deadpool uses magic etc?

[b]IB remembers using half his power to contain *A* Hulk, I'm not disputing this. On earth 14112.

It's not 616 Hulk though. [/B]

Where does it say he is selecting the 616 universe here instead of sending him home? Nothing states that. All im saying is, if events that happened is remembered in Canon material, its usually Canon. Kinda like the JLA vs Avengers comic. Its been reference in multiple Canon material. Its Canon to DC but not Marvel. Simple.

I mean, the timeline is simple.

1. Longshot is in 616.
2. He uses the CC, splits the IB in half, and creates Earth 14112
3. Wacky hijinks
4. Longshot uses the CC to recombine the IB
5. IB helps Longshot home, from Earth 14112 to Earth 616.
6. Longshot is back in 616.

Earth 14112 still exists out there somewhere, sure. With a Hulk that is capable of matching half of IB's power. But it's not 616 Hulk, even if IB and Longshot remember their adventures

Originally posted by carver9
Where does it say he is selecting the 616 universe here instead of sending him home? Nothing states that. All im saying is, if events that happened is remembered in Canon material, its usually Canon. Kinda like the JLA vs Avengers comic. Its been reference in multiple Canon material. Its Canon to DC but not Marvel. Simple.

So you are saying that the IB is doing all that stuff to send Longshot home? Home from where?

Yes, its 'canon' to IB. He remembers it.

But the Hulk who matched half his power, isn't 616 Hulk. It's 14112 Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
Just know that im looking for that post that you used against ODG, where Supes broke an alt Wonder Woman neck and him standing in the watch tower talking to Diana about the event. You used it as Canon material saying since Supes remembered, it happened. I will find it

DC and Marvel apply different rules for alternate realities 🤷🤷

Well this thread got off track quick.

Originally posted by abhilegend
DC and Marvel apply different rules for alternate realities 🤷🤷

Alternate realities are just that. Stay consistent and stop being a hypocrite. Thanks.

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