Originally posted by Mormegil
HOW DARE YOU! TOM BOMBADIL IS AWSOME! HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT? ANY TRUE FAN OF TOLKIEN WOULD DRINK A BOTTLE OF BOILING METAL BEFORE SAYING SUCH BLASPHEMY! TOM BOMBADIL AND THE SCOURING OF THE SHIRE ARE TWO OF THE BEST THINGS THAT EVER HAPPENED IN THE LORD OF THE RINGS! AND WHAT IS THIS ABOUT PURISTS? I DON'T HAVE TO BE A PURIST TO THINK THAT NOT HAVING THOSE THINGS WAS A BAD THING TO DO!
these were my least fav parts
Originally posted by Ushgarak
As it so happens, I am NOT just a fan of Tolkien for the action, I have been a Tolkien fan far longer than you, thank you very much, and I have always appreicated the full depth of the Tolkien universe.But the fact remains that I believe Scouring is just crap, and that or Tom Bombadil on film would NOT HAVE WORKED.
I am a true Tolkien fan, as is Peter Jackson, and if you start insulting my beliefs like that again I shall consider it a flame and take action. I hope that is clear. Just calm the hell down and don't be so narrow-minded about thinking a 'true fan' has to think just like you.
I'm not narrow minded, for your information! But, besides... I did add that I was sorry for going overboard like that.
The reason why I feal so insulted is because I loved both Tom Bombadil and the scouring of the Shire imensely, and your utter lack of interest of them pushed me over the edge... Once again, I am sorry. I didn't want to hurt your fealings, but it got out of hand, and I went too far. Way too far. I admit that I was wrong to say those things, and I am truly sorry.
SAM DOESN"T DIE IN THE BOOKS AT ALL!
And I quote (from the Time-line section in the LotR appendixes):
"1482 Death of Mistress Rose, wife of Master Samwise, on Mid-years Day. On September 22 Master Samwise rides out from Bag End. He comes to the Tower Hills, and is last seen by Elanor, to whom he gives the Red Book afterwards kept by the Fairbairns. Among them the tradition is handed down from Elanor that Samwise passed the Towers, and went to the Grey Havens, and passed over the Sea, last of the Ring-bearers."
Worse thing he could do is add scourching of the shire. It has no point in the movie and rag it on enother 30 min. Dont get me wrong I loved it in the book but it just doesnt go with the movie cause think about it after the main pointof trilogy is done destroying the ring then out of no were they add this brand new conflict after the main focus of the movie is done. people would jus get annoyed by this ik i would but its good in the book but does not belong in the movie plus peter jackson gave it a tribute in the first movie when frodo looks in the mirror so u know he does care but smart to take it out.
Tom Bombadil would not be parallel to the story. In FOTR, PJ was trying to establish Frodo's struggle, to put the emphasis on Frodo. These three movies all have to be on the same page, otherwise it would be just too confusing for people who have not read the book or who are not familiar with the story. PJ had the daunting task of having to appeal to BOTH sides of the audience. Although they are great in the book, Those two events just aren't parallel to the rest of the story concerning the movie.