Originally posted by CosmicComet
PIS off, I could see Superman dodging everything that Zeus throws at him easily.He's not just some silly point A to point B FTL traveler like Surfer. He actually has speed and reaction time on that level. i.e. he can punch God knows how many times in a single second, at least thousands.
Show me him punching 20 times in a second.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Please stop. Superman gets hit the vast vast majority of time.. even against Street lvlers? He would get hit here, and that would be in the end of it.
Superman getting tagged (outside of his will) by anyone not on his level is nearly as terrible a form of PIS as Flash getting tagged in similar conditions.
Show me him punching 20 times in a second.
Take Goku.
Imagine how fast Goku punches.
Now, imagine Goku building an ENTIRE CITY in the order seconds.
Oh wait, that's not possible for him is it?
Supes has done that.
Punching fast is not a complex task at all. Building a city with your own hands of course, is.
Supes >(multiplied by an x amount of times) Goku. Who himself is a faster puncher than most of Marvel.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Superman getting tagged (outside of his will) by anyone not on his level is nearly as terrible a form of PIS as Flash getting tagged in similar conditions.Take Goku.
Imagine how fast Goku punches.
Now, imagine Goku building an ENTIRE CITY in the order seconds.
Oh wait, that's not possible for him is it?
Supes has done that.
Punching fast is not a complex task at all. Building a city with your own hands of course, is.
Supes >(multiplied by an x amount of times) Goku. Who himself is a faster puncher than most of Marvel.
Goku doesn't need to build a city to prove anything when his weaker friend played rock paper scissors, fought, taunted, THINKING, fought again, and did all of this in less than 1/5 of a second.
Goku doesn't need to build a city when tien shot the SOLAR FLARE at goku and goku outpace solar energy, grabbed roshis glasses... ran back to the spot he ran from and put the glasses back on before the SOLAR ENERGY touched his body (ftl). That seems far more impressive IMO. I guess you don't have any combat scenerios that I asked for huh so you bring up Supes building a city.
Goku is a faster puncher than ALL in marvel. Goku has showings of throwing a hundred ki blast in less than a second. Tien himself hit Goku with 20 punches per every breath goku did and all of this happened at db weakest stages.
This isn't about goku, show me 20 punches.
Originally posted by carver9
Goku doesn't need to build a city to prove anything when his weaker friend played rock paper scissors, fought, taunted, THINKING, fought again, and did all of this in less than 1/5 of a second.Goku doesn't need to build a city when tien shot the SOLAR FLARE at goku and goku outpace solar energy, grabbed roshis glasses... ran back to the spot he ran from and put the glasses back on before the SOLAR ENERGY touched his body (ftl). That seems far more impressive IMO. I guess you don't have any combat scenerios that I asked for huh so you bring up Supes building a city.
Goku is a faster puncher than ALL in marvel. Goku has showings of throwing a hundred ki blast in less than a second. Tien himself hit Goku with 20 punches per every breath goku did and all of this happened at db weakest stages.
This isn't about goku, show me 20 punches.
Outrunning a solar flare as a child and then not being fast enough to pick up Gohan, Goten, Trunks and Piccolo before Buu could self destruct even though they were at most a couple of thousand feet away. You know what that is bud? Outlier. 🙂
DBZ folks are hypersonic at most consistently.
But hey, its not like Superman has done things like reflecting lazers at close range right? Not like he's intercepted lazers being fired from space down at cities below right? Oh wait. 🙂
Carver, you aren't dumb, at times you come close, but don't be obtuse. I don't need a combat specific feat. Why? Because building a city with your own limbs is of course completely translatable. Punch 20 times a second you ask again? Hmm. How many times a second would Supes have to be moving his arms here?
Wish to guesstimate? As he surely is not using some magic building restore vision on these is he? Goku's slow ass would not be able to do this.
What speed feats does Zeus have to say he could even touch a PIS-less Supes?
Originally posted by Sirius77
Superman is a lot more durable than any version of hulk. I see his combat speed serving him very well here. He will definitely have a [B]much better showing than hulk did against Zeus. [/B]
Why didn't he have a better showing against Titus who at best is ALMOST equal to Zeus and against Despero who at best is ALMOST equal to Zeus.
He got one shotted by both.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
It was the best way to demonstrate to Carver Supes' real speed when he uses it; Comparing it to another fictional verse that he understands very well.
I agree with iceman, keep the anime out of tis thread... if you want to talk about goku, go to the anime section.
I'm waiting on those punching feats still.