The reach of the Heart of the Universe is limited to the universe. And while he probably could overpower Dr. Manhattan and the Darkest Knight they could just leave, or not decide to enter his universe.
But the battle between the Beyonder and Molecule Man caused more collateral damage than any of Dr. Manhattan's or the Darkest Knight's fights. So he'd destroy both of them.
Unless you want to hand-wave this to be some abstract visual metaphor for what actually happened then there's no excuse.
The Celestials' attempt to overthrow Thanos with the Infinity Gems was on a grander scale, and he thwarted that with a wave of his hand instead of picking up his own planets.
I understand where you're going with this, and the issue I have with it is that it's disingenuous.
It says a lot about argument when it relies on a twenty year-old title published outside of continuity, that not only hasn't been referenced but is also incoherent with the current story-line.
For ****'s sake Perpetua had to coordinate a campaign just to destroy single universes.
because sometimes energy attacks are more powerful then the collateral damage they cause.
the scene where owen hits beyonder with a blast that could have destroyed billions of dimensions, but didnt even damage his apartment room is a pretty common example.
wheres it say she was weakened by that?
okay?
all of mxys feats are canon to him as a character. and i dont see why the age of the book matters? does he need to destroy a multiverse every week for the feat to be valid?
wasn't perpetua still weakened there or was she at full power? cant remember.
Sometimes we have to use collateral damage but it also varies on the author
Snyder mentioned that Perpetua was almost always weakened. She lost her power after fighting the JL
how dare perpetua and batmanhattan smash planets at each other
this is how multiversal level fight should be conducted, the true high level mr master certified winners, they can bust multiverse while not destroying anything in their apartment. thats where the true skills lie
Yes, but you still have the Beyonder's fight against Molecule Man where the multiverse was destroyed to fall back on. You don't have anything like that for Perpetua or the Darkest Knight.
What he has to do is to remain consistent and have his peers being able to replicate the feats when needed.
Weakened by what?
You run away after my final reply, then you return to thread over a month later when it's buried and post a bunch of scans that doesn't discredit a single argument I've made in the thread, and then you declare yourself the "winner." Weren't you seeing a shrink to prevent shit like this from happening?
Last edited by Astner on Dec 27th, 2020 at 09:41 PM
you literally didn't counter a single point i made except nitpicking one sentence or two out of whole paragraphs and scans to argue, pick and choose where you wanna debate
every single arguments you made in that thread, proved to be a lie
No seriously, reread the thread. 52 universes, the 6th dimension being the highest, claims of infinite dimensions referring to universes and not spatial dimensions according to the exact same issue, etc.
There's a reason why you retreated from the thread, and why you seethed so bad that you had to return over a month later to get the last word in, twice.
People don't like to agree with me, but look at the thread.
The thread speaks for itself.
I'm not really sure whether you're trolling or if you're off your meds. Either way there's no point in wasting my time.
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