Sparda brothers have been shown to resist soul suck for a short time, so...that makes things interesting since it's no "instant kill with Soul Reaver FTW".
The weakest link in DMC team is Lady who's basically normal human athlete with extraordinary mastery of firearms (she can easily be killed by simplest soul manipulation by Kain). The other four have demonic blood running in them.
Dante and Vergil are both known to have combat teleportation abilities (Vergil's are more developed) which are almost equal or equal to those Dimension Reaver gives to Kain.
Question- is BO powerset in terms of spells avaliable to Kain or only the Reaver abilities?
Nero's capabilities aren't clear enough by now. We know only two of his weapons and that Devil Bringer power. But it would be fine to add him to even the numbers a bit (Lady is a weak link and Devil Bringer is the only thing there really close to true TK (if we don't count Vergil's side effect Sword Hanging ability when you're able to keep your enemy in the air with those mystical energy blades).
Reaver or no Reaver, I meant that he can teleport. But so do Sparda brothers via Darkslayer or Trickster styles.
Kain gains all his abilities according to the developers, when Raziel says he restores kain, Kain regains all his old powers.
Kain can solo this but with all his vampire lords with him as well hes going to be unstoppable. Also the soul reaver its true can suck souls when Kain stabs into his enemies but the blade can also fire a soul destroying projectile that blasts your soul from you, killing you instantly. Kain can also rip souls out himself
or he could teleport near the brothers and activate his blood rage reaver powers that would make them go mad and fight eachother.
Kains vampire lords although not as great as kain would be extremely powerful all together since Melchiah is nearly invincible and can go immaterial, the DMC would have to hack him to pieces or dissintegrate him, not to menstion Dumah is also nearly indestructable but is susceptable to fire. Rahab and Zephon would probably be easiest to dispatch but Turel would cause annoyance with constant shockwaves and soul powers.
Raziel and Kain solo this however, Kains soldiers combiend would probably help indeed but are not the highest threat, although i may be underestimating them
Both Dante and Vergil can resist soul suck for a short time canonwise (DMC3, mission 12, as well as encounters with soul-consuming demonic creatures). Even without Nexus stone or said stuff they can live for 10-15 minutes with Soul Reaver stabbed into their body. As for vampiric mental manipulation, according to DMC manual, Nevan was a true vampiric goddess (not some halfass whore vampire\succubus hybride), Kain's equal in terms of rank, though not overall power, and both Dante and Vergil (as well as his father, whom Estacado generously added to the list) were immune to her mental manipulation.
Both Sparda brothers and their father are resistant to soul suck and possess combat teleportation ability. So it can be possible for each of them to allow Kain stab them with Reaver, watch shocked Kain (WTF? He didn't die instantly!), teleport away and pull Soul Reaver out of their body. Then decapitate shocked Kain with his own sword.
Girls is the weakest link in DMC team, though. Lady gets killed in the first seconds of thr battle, Trish and Lucia may last longer,
Thanks for the PM, Charlotte.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Both Dante and Vergil can resist soul suck for a short time canonwise (DMC3, mission 12, as well as encounters with soul-consuming demonic creatures). Even without Nexus stone or said stuff they can live for 10-15 minutes with Soul Reaver stabbed into their body. As for vampiric mental manipulation, according to DMC manual, Nevan was a true vampiric goddess (not some halfass whore vampire\succubus hybride), Kain's equal in terms of rank, though not overall power, and both Dante and Vergil (as well as his father, whom Estacado generously added to the list) were immune to her mental manipulation.
Both Sparda brothers and their father are resistant to soul suck and possess combat teleportation ability. So it can be possible for each of them to allow Kain stab them with Reaver, watch shocked Kain (WTF? He didn't die instantly!), teleport away and pull Soul Reaver out of their body. Then decapitate shocked Kain with his own sword.Girls is the weakest link in DMC team, though. Lady gets killed in the first seconds of thr battle, Trish and Lucia may last longer,
I don't think I need to add anything more to your post.
Wait, who're those guys below Kain and Raz?
first of all, kain and raz, after all they've been through, are nearly incapable of being suprised..indeed raz absorbs and accepts every fact he recieves instantly, believing that it is somehow kains, mobeus' or the EG's fault 😂
secondly, kain, raz, turel and the sarafan lord can all use TK to imobalize the DMC team..
also, kain, raz and the sarafan lord are completely immortal, and are almost impossible to knock out, or even touch..the only real threat on team DMC are mundus and sparda (assuming hes actually is on the team), as they have had more experience than any other on the team..
Originally posted by Burning thought
Kain gains all his abilities according to the developers, when Raziel says he restores kain, Kain regains all his old powers.Kain can solo this but with all his vampire lords with him as well hes going to be unstoppable. Also the soul reaver its true can suck souls when Kain stabs into his enemies but the blade can also fire a soul destroying projectile that blasts your soul from you, killing you instantly. Kain can also rip souls out himself
or he could teleport near the brothers and activate his blood rage reaver powers that would make them go mad and fight eachother.
Kains vampire lords although not as great as kain would be extremely powerful all together since Melchiah is nearly invincible and can go immaterial, the DMC would have to hack him to pieces or dissintegrate him, not to menstion Dumah is also nearly indestructable but is susceptable to fire. Rahab and Zephon would probably be easiest to dispatch but Turel would cause annoyance with constant shockwaves and soul powers.
Raziel and Kain solo this however, Kains soldiers combiend would probably help indeed but are not the highest threat, although i may be underestimating them
Dante could pwn any of the Vampire leaders with ease he would own Turel so badly it's not even funny.
Originally posted by MadMel
first of all, kain and raz, after all they've been through, are nearly incapable of being suprised..indeed raz absorbs and accepts every fact he recieves instantly, believing that it is somehow kains, mobeus' or the EG's fault 😂
secondly, kain, raz, turel and the sarafan lord can all use TK to imobalize the DMC team..
also, kain, raz and the sarafan lord are completely immortal, and are almost impossible to knock out, or even touch..the only real threat on team DMC are mundus and sparda (assuming hes actually is on the team), as they have had more experience than any other on the team..
Just some vampire Kain leutenants. Nothing major.
If both Dante and his father take their high demonic forms(thing called Super Sparda\Sparda form in games) and Vergil is in his Nero Angelo form...things become weird for Kain and his teammates. Non-combat teleportation requires casting time, as well as most of Kain's spells. That's where superior speed and flight ablily come into play (and where being spellcaster is a disadvantage).
Being invisible and immaterial also no big deal for Dante, Vergil and their father. In game Dante easily interacts with immaterial creatures...often interaction takes form of killing them- even with bullets (though those bullets' strength is based on the ability to charge them with demonic energy), not only contact Devil Arms.
And girls froom DMC team need to be given cheerleader outfits and stay out of combat.
Dante can track hidden or invisible demonic\vampiric creatures easily and shot it into head with perfect accuracy aiming only with help of his extra senses (demonic perception of the world). It's safe to say that his father and brother posess the same ability.
At hard level at DMC 3 (I think) you have invisible subboss.