I made this thread for lightsnake since he insists on concluding his arguments with "Yoda is uber the text says so". I think we all know where this one goes but for the sake of humor, lets try it.
Yoda: Declared strongest Jedi ever...the strongest the Jedi order ever produced, mastered all defenses and offensive techniques of the lightside and the best saber duelist of the Golden age.
Sith amulets= fallible. And exar's arrogance would prevente him from using it. Or Yoda'd simply deflect it. And Yoda's the top saber master in the time when Jedi dueling was at its peak
Considering only 1-2 of them worked out of the thousands other sith lords have and werent shown to use, then you have no argument. It's ridiculous to even assume Yoda could deflect his blast..
Hmm when have we seen Emerald lightning work on anybody but the Vong? Your argument is getting more desperate every time lightsnake, I suggest you stop because you're digging yourself a hole.
oh guys, if anybody wants proof of lightsnake's denial and the fact that he spends too much time on ths forum, can never admit he's wrong, and just starts going crazy when he is because he can't sleep at night, here you go..
Debnath: You lose. You lose. You lose.
**** off, you whiny brat
Note that he was the one crying for about 15 minutes..
^This all happened after I shot down his argument numerous times, and he started making stuff up, adding ridiculous sources, and acting like a little child.. It was actually funny.. Too easy.
This debate is pretty hilarious. I don't want to get involved and ruin it. LOL.
But yes, Exar Kun would win. Okay Lightsnake, Yoda's the "strongest foe the darkness has ever known" - my answer to that [for this matter] is so what? Exar Kun destroyed the most powerful Jedi of his era, and I've yet to see any other Jedi that would be able to stop of him. Up to the PT era - Yoda's the only one.
And where does it say he's mastered every technique of the Lightside? That's pretty weird, because I seem to remember the arthritis muppet falling about ten stories to the ground courtesy of Darth Sidious, and limping away. Granted he's superior to Sidious, but nothing saved him. If he had all those techniques why not use one or two?
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Oh and LOGIC is BACK in this forum. I don't want to flame lightsnake more than he has flamed himself, but Sama, expect a bunch of ambiguous text saying that "Yoda can defeat any sith ever, Yoda is uber, etc".
Power of the Jedi, Motoko, and I'd well argue Thon or Vima were stronger than any other Jedi of the time. And he's also the strongest in the force the Order had produced. And why didn't Count Dooku tell Anakin the truth and save his life? Why didn't sidious or Mace use the force in their fights? Why didn't Exar use the force against Ulic?
Yoda', unlike Kun has had, what, over 900 years? And he was still fighting? Yoda could've beaten any one else, but according to him: "The Sith had changed. They could no longer be burned away with a lightsaber or chased away with the Force. How could one fight the Darkness when the darkness had made war itself a weapon?"
As a saber duelist? Yoda stood top of the line at the golden age of dueling. At powers? Yoda stood top in power. I don't see how Exar's as strong as Yoda. Or more skilled. Yoda was blasted back after pushing Sidious's lightning back at him...neither of them were in top top shape after that, I doubt anyone can hit an explosion point blank and instantly do something. Last I checked, when Kun caught an explosion full on, it ended with him pleading with Nadd. And I'm rather certain Yoda believes the lightside works far more defensive than offensive
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Last edited by Lightsnake on Jul 16th, 2006 at 07:28 PM
Yes, I'd like to see the quadruped swing a saber, afterall not having hands might cause a problem.
Vima's a possibility. Nevertheless, Exar Kun > Vima.
And Exar Kun is the strongest in the Force of that entire era.
Because Dooku isn't a coward? Or rather I should say he'd have been killed by Palpatine either way.
Mace [apparently] wasn't trying to kill Sidious, since he'd originally came to arrest him (even though that could easily be argued), and didn't you argue Sidious was holding back? I don't hold that opinion, but you kind of answered your own question.
Because they were interrupted in their match by...oh I don't know, let's say - the spirit of Marka Ragnos.
Vodo, unlike Kun, has had what, over 600 years? And he was still fighting? Odan, unlike Kun, had had what, over 1000 years?
Seems their years didn't save him, eh?
Beaten anyone else? That's quite a leap considering he's only slightly superior to Sidious, and Mace/Depa/Dooku/Anakin can contend with him.
Firstly, as I said above, yeah he's the top of the PT - no doubt. He's the top of the line for Jedi. However, he's not leagues above everyone - the list above is people that can contend with him, and give him a fight. Considering Exar Kun is > than all the aforementioned, it gives him a nice chance.
And btw, didn't you admit Exar Kun > DE Sidious in lightsaber ability once when we were chatting on AIM? If that wasn't you, don't mind it (it was awhile ago).
Exar Kun stood at the top of power as well! What a surprise. He's demonstrated far more impressive skills with Sadow's amulets, Sith alchemy and magic, and on top of all that he uses a double bladed lightsaber combined with Makashi, you know - the lightsaber to lightsaber form.
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We know Thon killed an extremely powerful Sith or Dark Jedi. And Yoda is simply called the strongest the Jedi Order had produced. And Dooku not a coward? Dooku was terrified , he was described as 'silently pleading' with Anakin.
Last time I checked, Kun had a good while before Marka appeared during the big duel with Ulic. And yeah, no denying Exar has a nice chance, but so does Yoda. Yoda is the strongest Jedi Master bar none and the strongest in the Jedi Golden Age
And that's what Yoda saw during their little lightning wrestle.
...and no, I most certainly didn't concede Kun>Palpatine with a saber...I said maybe by ROTS or the OT, but not when Sidious is in his young body.
And since, according to Lucas-as I got from Nai and Escape-, the PT era is the Jedi GOLDEN AGE...And Kun wasn't a Makashi user, that was falsified info. Yoda is the strongest of the stronger era.
And we all know Odan stripped Ancient Sith of their Force powers. Sadly, that wasn't enough to stop Exar Kun.
Does that mean he's stronger than everyone because of that? If I may remind you, Exar Kun doesn't belong to the Jedi Order.
Well he kind of is, that's why I edited it before you replied.
Nevertheless, it wouldn't matter - he wouldn't open his mouth because Palpatine would've then killed him either way.
I seem to remember their lightsabers clashing for one page before being interrupted.
True, true.
Alright, and Odan's death is described as "leaving the darkest power in the galaxy to walk away with something that will make him even stronger" referring to Kun of course.
We saw Yoda deflecting Force lightning, and that's Force lightning that doesn't even instantly kill the receiver and throwing a pod back at Sidious. We've seen Exar Kun execute blasts through temple walls, tear through a Sith Wyrm, and Massassi.
As I said, disregard it if it wasn't you.
Good enough considering Sidious is hardly that far behind Yoda in saber skills.
'Kay? What does the "Golden Age of Jedi" have to do with Yoda > Kun, lol. I've already conceded that Yoda > all other Jedi.
I didn't know that, so I apologize. Haven't been here in a month and was just going by that article you provided. I figured he didn't use Makashi considering he uses hammer strikes half the time.
And Kun is the more powerful than every Sith out of that "stronger era". One includes Darth Sidious, who you know - is basically second of that era.
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