ROTS Anakin vs. The Apprentice

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Gaevus Mesias Senior Member

ROTS Anakin vs. The Apprentice

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NonSensi-Klown Restricted

Apprentice would tool him with the force...but Anakin is a better duelist.

Lucien A Lets all love Lain

Co-signed. Now let's all ignore this and not turn into a quagmire.

Red Nemesis The Blind Critic
Originally posted by Lucien A
Co-signed. Now let's all ignore this and not turn into a quagmire.

DING DING DING!!! YOU SAID THE MAGIC WORD!!! 😱

I think that was what I said to start off the 40 page politics discussion that was so much fun.

Hewhoknowsall Restricted

Starkiller easily.

Why does everyone think:

mace is good at sabers but bad at force (BS)
yoda is good at force but bad at sabers ( 🤨 )
anakin is good at sabers but bad at force (not really)
vader is good at force but bad at sabers (really?)
njo luke rocks at everything
sidious is good at force and bad at sabers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gnjyp0nSqc

Elite Hunter Senior Member

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Starkiller easily.

Why does everyone think:

mace is good at sabers but bad at force (BS)

Bad isn't the word I would use to describe his force power.

yoda is good at force but bad at sabers ( 🤨 )

I doubt many people think that

anakin is good at sabers but bad at force (not really)

Anakin probably has the most raw power in the force then anyone in star wars but he has hardly mastered it.

vader is good at force but bad at sabers (really?)

Vader isn't bad in saber combat (I believe someone has a quote that says he either mastered all forms save for Vapaad or has a lot of knowledge on them) but his mobility would become a factor vs the faster characters

njo luke rocks at everything

That is up for debate depending on what time in the NJO series but I don't know enough about NJO Luke and prior to it to answer how powerful he is.

sidious is good at force and bad at sabers

Sidious is beast at both as is Yoda.

Hewhoknowsall Restricted

What I'm trying to say is that they always say "ROTS Anakin wins in sabers but loses in force"

Darth_Glentract The Truest Sith Lord

Because his Force abilities are overshadowed by his saber skill.

Elite Hunter Senior Member

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
What I'm trying to say is that they always say "ROTS Anakin wins in sabers but loses in force"

.......Because his opponents are more powerful then Anakin, due to his lack of mastery of the force.

Red Nemesis The Blind Critic
mace is good at sabers but bad at force (BS)

He is amazing at sabers, and average with the force. With the exception of the metaphysical aspect of Vaapad, he has few force showings other than TK- the manipulation of a landslide and Force Crushing Grievous. He isn't superb with the force, but he certainly is powerful.

NonSensi-Klown Restricted

A landslide of rock isn't "impressive"? That's possibly hundreds of tons.

Lucien A Lets all love Lain

Of fun.

NonSensi-Klown Restricted

Your random ad-ons are amusing and golden.

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SIDIOUS 66 Senior Member
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
He is amazing at sabers, and average with the force. With the exception of the metaphysical aspect of Vaapad, he has few force showings other than TK- the manipulation of a landslide and Force Crushing Grievous. He isn't superb with the force, but he certainly is powerful.

Mace tore down entire armies with the force, crushed Grievous with ease(where most jedi failed to harm him with the force), ride a landslide of over a hundred ton of rock. He was also the only known jedi to truly master vapaad, and channel his inner darkness into a weapon of light, or redirect sith lightning with his saber.

I say he is pretty up there. He is certainly far above average.

Red Nemesis The Blind Critic
Mace tore down entire armies with the force

Was the army killing feat done with the Force? I thought it was just his ridiculous speed- not a force attack. I could be wrong though- it wouldn't be the first time.

crushed Grievous with ease(where most jedi failed to harm him with the force)

The saber duel was hardly easy, and I don't know of any other Jedi attacking the General with the Force at all. Proof please? Just to see where the idea came from- I do believe you.

He was also the only known jedi to truly master vapaad, and channel his inner darkness into a weapon of light,

I gave vaapad as a feat, but it was really a philisophical one, rather than Force related one. All he did with Vaapad was reconcile his love of fighting with the light side of the Force- hardly an example of strength.

or redirect sith lightning with his saber.

This was a function of vaapad- not a showing of strength. Heck, it even says in the novel that Mace wasn't strong enough to continue- had Palpatine continued the onslaught (even while holding back) Mace would have died.

I don't want to say that he's weak, but to put him on a level with Yoda, Sidious, Dooku or other real greats seems irresponsible.

Mizukage Yoda Lord of Winterfell

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Was the army killing feat done with the Force? I thought it was just his ridiculous speed- not a force attack. I could be wrong though- it wouldn't be the first time.

Yes Force amplified blows and speed, not to mention a ridiculous Force wave.
The saber duel was hardly easy, and I don't know of any other Jedi attacking the General with the Force at all. Proof please? Just to see where the idea came from- I do believe you.

Not talking about the Saber duel, this is in CW chapter 20, Grievous is loading the chancellor into his shuttle, Mace's LAAT arrives, it gets shot down, Mace Jumps out, lands next to Grievous. Grievous immediately draws four blades, Mace implodes the General's chest, and their goes uber CW Grievous, hello lame ROTS Grievous. And in Obsession he smashed Grievous with a STAP. THe General also has dodged Force Pushes on multiple occassions in the CW, and quite casually at that.

I don't want to say that he's weak, but to put him on a level with Yoda, Sidious, Dooku or other real greats seems irresponsible.

I can agree with that in the PT those three are nigh peerless, but we should at least admit he's damn close.

Darth Martin Senior Member

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
He is amazing at sabers, and average with the force.
He is quite far above average. Second only to Yoda in Force Mastery in the PT Order.

Hewhoknowsall Restricted

I think it's a sterotype, and Yoda being bad at sabers? Some say that Anakin could beat him in that ❌

Master Crimzon Baby Killer

Anakin being able to beat in you in sabers doesn't make you a bad duelist. In fact, Anakin tooled one of the finest swordsman in history with little effort (Dooku).

Though, I do believe that within the PT, Yoda, Sidious, Mace, and to some extent Obi-wan are capable of defeating Anakin in a duel.