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Dudes strong enough to cut through multiple city blocks with every swing of his sword, as well as having the strength necessary to actually wield a sword thats 13 km long. He's faster than Link too, so he can and will slice his chibi head off instantly.
So, he's a casually class 100 hypersonic brick with an extendo sword and a tendency to talk too much. That entire scene came off as one bad penis joke.
Looking at that I don't think this is as one sided as you're all making it sound. I've not known Aura to make one sided threads, and he did give Link everything. This includes super dooper volcano freezing arrows, an indestructible shield, an invulnerability spell and a big leaf.
How fast is Gin actually? Any exact numbers?
His sword extends incredibly quickly, enough so that another hypersonic character can't even see it extend and retract. He claims it to be about 500 times the speed of sound. His actual speed is nebulous as the speed of Bleach characters is hotly contested. Regardless, he is very, very fast.
Even if Link has cool equipment he's hopelessly outmatched here.
I don't think he really is 'hopelessly outmatched' here. It's certainly not a fight Link can wade through on brute force, but he needn't rely on it to the same degree his opponent does.
Fighting outside his weight class isn't new to Link, he has the tools to do so. His shield should protect him from the extension of the blade, and he's a pretty tough little guy himself. If we're going to assume Gin opens the fight with a bankai we might as well assume Link opens the fight with his best possible strategy, too, and uses the magic armour. shrug 'Hypersonic' doesn't tell me a great deal, but it sounds well within the realm of WW Link's combat speed. The killing dust ability thing his sword does also should be countered by the Master Sword, forcing him to fight Link more directly.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
But he has a leaf...
Tbh, I'm not sure how strong he actually is, I don't read Bleach but the scan I've been shown has him swinging a sword that would weigh approx 16 176.5 Kg, through several buildings all at once. This is fairly easy for him, but it's hard to quantify his true strength based on that alone.
Not sure how fast he moves but Link isn't a speedster so he can have faster, combat speed though, well WW Link can handle Ganondorf, which is pretty intense shit. The mach 10 sword extension shouldn't catch him off guard and his shield is indestructible. He's also very durable and has the magic armour (and Deku Leaf!) to fall back on.
I'm not sure if Gin's evil, the poll implies he is, if he is, I'm confident Link can hurt him. Link's not as mobile but he's very quick to react and has good ranged options. (One does not simply shrug off magic arrows)
Hard to fully quantify pure physical strength in Bleach, though think the strength for his/Ichigo's class is large building? Thats still above throwing room-sized rock heads. Wouldn't be certain that the Shield and Magic Armor could help out all too much unless we know what things it can take. Best thing it can tank?
Gin is.. complicated. He did evil things, betrayed the good guys and maimed many.. but it was all to get closer to the bigbad and eventually kill him. The MS would do more damage, but not to the extent it affects Dorf. On that Gin took a city-block+ shockwave with only a few cuts and bleeds, which is somewhat above the castle dura feat of Dorf's meaning Gin's gonna take less injury from it than Dorf did.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I don't think he really is 'hopelessly outmatched' here. It's certainly not a fight Link can wade through on brute force, but he needn't rely on it to the same degree his opponent does.Fighting outside his weight class isn't new to Link, he has the tools to do so. His shield should protect him from the extension of the blade, and he's a pretty tough little guy himself. If we're going to assume Gin opens the fight with a bankai we might as well assume Link opens the fight with his best possible strategy, too, and uses the magic armour. shrug 'Hypersonic' doesn't tell me a great deal, but it sounds well within the realm of WW Link's combat speed. The killing dust ability thing his sword does also should be countered by the Master Sword, forcing him to fight Link more directly.
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How does Gin counter gusts of wind? It's hard to sword fight while being buffeted by powerful winds.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Tbh, I'm not sure how strong he actually is, I don't read Bleach but the scan I've been shown has him swinging a sword that would weigh approx 16 176.5 Kg, through several buildings all at once. This is fairly easy for him, but it's hard to quantify his true strength based on that alone.Not sure how fast he moves but Link isn't a speedster so he can have faster, combat speed though, well WW Link can handle Ganondorf, which is pretty intense shit. The mach 10 sword extension shouldn't catch him off guard and his shield is indestructible. He's also very durable and has the magic armour (and Deku Leaf!) to fall back on.
I'm not sure if Gin's evil, the poll implies he is, if he is, I'm confident Link can hurt him. Link's not as mobile but he's very quick to react and has good ranged options. (One does not simply shrug off magic arrows)
True, Link can use the magic armor to survive for a time, but so what? As Nemebro said he's not going to get in range of being able to attack and Gin can flash step away from any arrows or the deku leaf. The wind isn't strong enough to buffet him and even if it does Gin can walk on air so he'll right himself easily.
And even if he does manage to block Gin with his shield once, Gin can easily flash step behind him and hit him again before he can turn around. Link can't keep up with him or block his attacks indefinitely.
And yes, Gin isn't really evil. He's more of a jerk who's secretly a good guy.
As for strength Gin casually blocked Ichigo early on in the manga. This Ichigo was able to block JidanbÅ's axe one handed with casual ease. JidanbÅ then hit him repeatedly to no effect until Ichigo smashed both his axes with a casual one handed swing. JidanbÅ is himself strong enough to create a wall of rock by smashing the ground.
Also the scale of his destructive power should speak for itself.
Originally posted by NemeBroWhy not, exactly?
Link will never get close enough to use the master sword, lol.
Originally posted by BloodRainMakes sense, so why not, though I don't think the gap on actual physical strength will be that wide here. shrug
Hard to fully quantify pure physical strength in Bleach, though think the strength for his/Ichigo's class is large building? Thats still above throwing room-sized rock heads. Wouldn't be certain that the Shield and Magic Armor could help out all too much unless we know what things it can take. Best thing it can tank?Gin is.. complicated. He did evil things, betrayed the good guys and maimed many.. but it was all to get closer to the bigbad and eventually kill him. The MS would do more damage, but not to the extent it affects Dorf. On that Gin took a city-block+ shockwave with only a few cuts and bleeds, which is somewhat above the castle dura feat of Dorf's meaning Gin's gonna take less injury from it than Dorf did.
The magic armour isn't in any cutscenes or stuff to my knowledge, so what it can 'tank' is an unknown, like most Zelda invulnerability items, he can't be hurt while it's up in gameplay. Link receives it from a wandering Inuit merchant who says it summons up mystical force to protect your body from harm, and it works during the Ganon fight. So there's that. Link himself is more durable than steel and concrete buildings by mid game, end game isn't really known but he does take a direct shit kicking from Ganondorf without lasting harm. The magic armour should improve on his durability.
Hm. So evil enough? Lel. Also, there's no way to say for certain that the Master Sword works in degrees with it's evil smiting, would it hold back because Gin is less evil? Would it go full on kablamo because evil is evil and **** evil? I'm not sure, but I will say that from what I've seen so far, durability is a wash, since Ganon wasn't actually harmed by the castle bust, and he seems to have the greater damage soak, since he continued speaking with his head impaled. I don't think Gin could do that.
Aren't swords in bleach attached to/made out of their wielders spirit or something? Speculative theory here: Mehbeh MS gets mad and breaks off chunks of it?
Originally posted by Nephthys
True, Link can use the magic armor to survive for a time, but so what? As Nemebro said he's not going to get in range of being able to attack and Gin can flash step away from any arrows or the deku leaf. The wind isn't strong enough to buffet him and even if it does Gin can walk on air so he'll right himself easily.And even if he does manage to block Gin with his shield once, Gin can easily flash step behind him and hit him again before he can turn around. Link can't keep up with him or block his attacks indefinitely.
And yes, Gin isn't really evil. He's more of a jerk who's secretly a good guy.
As for strength Gin casually blocked Ichigo early on in the manga. This Ichigo was able to block JidanbÅ's axe one handed with casual ease. JidanbÅ then hit him repeatedly to no effect until Ichigo smashed both his axes with a casual one handed swing. JidanbÅ is himself strong enough to create a wall of rock by smashing the ground.
Also the scale of his destructive power should speak for itself.
I'm not sure why teleportation's a big deal either, it's a common power for Zelda enemies. None of them can counter the Deku Leaf's might.
I have no idea what I'm looking at for destructive power in that last scan. I went back and forward a few times and all I could find of note were the buildings Gin cut in half, what I assume was a getsuga from Ichigo, and more penis jokes. mmm The effect in the sky?
I'm still of the mind that Ganon is an all around tougher enemy. It's just a different set of challenges. Link has versatility and combat speed on his side, Gin seems to have physical might and mobility.
Durability is a wash since they can both hurt each other, if Gin gets stuck full of sword it's gonna hurt because sword, and it's gonna hurt because magic sword. If Link does it's gonna hurt because sword. And I guess also because penis jokes.
Is there something I'm missing?