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ZephroCarnelian
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Iceman vs Flash

Both have some degree of control over kinetic energy:

Iceman can take it away.

Flash can give AND take away.

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Who wins? Debate.


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This has been done already. Flash consistently faces a foe who can induce tempetures of absolute zero...and freezing has absolutely no effect on the Flash.


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He freeze his feet with tons of Ice.


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He'll just vibrate his way out. And I seriously doubt Iceman can react to a man who's literally at times a living beam of light.

Iceman: *shatters*

Iceman: What the **** was that?!

Flash: This is gonna take some imagination...


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He'll just vibrate his way out. And I seriously doubt Iceman can react to a man who's literally at times a living beam of light.

Iceman: *shatters*

Iceman: What the **** was that?!

Flash: This is gonna take some imagination...


Flash. Without even trying too hard.


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Flash

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Flash.


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Good ol' Wally. Both are still awesome though.

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can't iceman just reconstruct himself from ambient water molecules if he's shattered? flash would have to shatter him, and then create enough friction to totally evaporate all moisture in the battlefield, including the moisture in his own body, effectively killing himself.

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Stalemate.


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he steals all his speed effectively turning Iceman into an icestatue. then uses his speed to send him into space at lightspeed making Ice Man inert.


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couldn't Iceman freeze the blood flow to the Flash's brain?


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what? he can't steal speed from icemans mind, if he can activate his power from a shattered or liquid state i'm sure using them in the form of an ice statue is no problem, since he is just an ice statue that can move and talk most of the time anyway. what would keep iceman from bonding his consciouness with clouds on the way to space, they are made primarily of water.

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couldn't Iceman freeze the blood flow to the Flash's brain?


Flash is faster than thought.

Although Iceman would know Flash is faster than Quicksilver or Northstar, his best bet would probably be to flash freeze the entire area. That will definately throw Wally off guard and slow him down.

However, when/if Wally hits Bobby, he can/will punch him to bits. Wally wont know Booby can exists as vapor. Thats the only chance Iceman gets at freezing Flash's blood.

If that doesnt happen, stalemate.

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if flash is faster than thought, does that mean he moves before he thinks? how does he ever know what he is doing or going to do? or does the speed force make his thoughts faster than normal thoughts so that he can think and move, but then that would mean he's not faster than thought

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if flash is faster than thought, does that mean he moves before he thinks? how does he ever know what he is doing or going to do? or does the speed force make his thoughts faster than normal thoughts so that he can think and move, but then that would mean he's not faster than thought

He's faster than OTHERS' thoughts.


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how convenient roll eyes (sarcastic)

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what? he can't steal speed from icemans mind, if he can activate his power from a shattered or liquid state i'm sure using them in the form of an ice statue is no problem, since he is just an ice statue that can move and talk most of the time anyway. what would keep iceman from bonding his consciouness with clouds on the way to space, they are made primarily of water.


Stealing speed = stealing kinetic energy. No kinetic energy - no motion of electricity in Bobby;s brain, effectively stealing speed from his mind. So yeah, Wally can "freeze" Bobby in time.


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Can he still do the whole existing in and controlling any and all moisture in the atmosphere and spreading of the conscious and stuff since he lost his second mutation?
I thought he was back to being regular old iceman....
Who Flash would easily defeat.


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Can he still do the whole existing in and controlling any and all moisture in the atmosphere and spreading of the conscious and stuff since he lost his second mutation?


Yea he can.

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