"Time is the one thing the all-father cannot control." -- Odin runs the gauntlet

Started by Philosophía7 pages

"Time is the one thing the all-father cannot control." -- Odin runs the gauntlet

Eat it, etc.

Now, Odin faces the following:

1.Ganthet
2.Shazam
3.Phantom Stranger
4.Nabu
5.Mordru
6.Spectre (DoV)

How far does he get?

I guess Fraction didn't read the times Odin/the Odinforce did manipulate time or is ignoring them altogether.

He definitely gets to Nabu, though you could argue him getting to Mordru, too, depending on the incarnation.

Depends on if Shazam is at RoE IMO. If he is I'd put him above stranger easily as the strangers has always been the behind the scenes kind of guy leaving his powers somewhat ambiguous.

Goes to show you how chronocentric we are as a race. Time's not even a Universal constant and yet whereas everyone and their brother in comics can abuse the phuck out of Physics when it comes to FTL travel time manipulation is put on some pedestal.

If we were applying RL physics to comics, wouldn't anyone with high end gravity manip also be able to control time to some extent?

As for the match, stops at 4 IMO.

Jesus Christ, that is some of the worst characterization I've seen in a long time. I hope it's revealed that this is some sort of imposter or something otherwise Odin must have gone a little loony in death. I'm also going to interpret that as won't and not can't thank you very much.

I can't believe the status of the Odin Force has still not been addressed. He obviously possesses it to at least some degree but that should have been the first thing to get out of the way.

Not sure why is Asgard being remade into some New Genesis/Apokolips hybrid.

I'm not really certain where Odin stands currently so I don't know how far he'll get. There seems to be indication he possesses vast offensive might but his durability seems to have taken a dive.

Contact Fraction and find out. Though, he might just say to stay tuned to Thor/Fear Itself.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Jesus christ, that is some of the worst characterization I've seen in a long time. I hope it's revealed that this is some sort of imposter or something otherwise Odin must have gone a little loony in death. I'm also going to interpret that as won't and not can't thank you very much.

Look I agree it's shit writing, but there is absolutely nothing to suggest Odin's purported difficulty with controlling time is voluntary. Pretty unequivocal as statements of limitations go.


Not sure why is Asgard being remade into some New Genesis/Apokolips hybrid.

I'm not really sure where Odin stands currently for me to comment on the gauntlet.

Because Darkseid's schemes are too large to be limited to one company. durkseid

It really looks like it was plucked out of a New Gods comic.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It really looks like it was plucked out of a New Gods comic.

Might be a homage to Kirby.

After all, he intended the New Gods to be the direct successor to the Gods of Asgard, pretty sure the first NG comic even has a reprint of a scene from the Ragnarok in an old Mighty Thor issue showing the destruction of the Old Gods of the Third World.

When did Odin get above Galactus? Just asking based on answers and not meaning to demean anyone but shouldn't he stop at 1

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Might be a homage to Kirby.

After all, he intended the New Gods to be the direct successor to the Gods of Asgard, pretty sure the first NG comic even has a reprint of a scene from the Ragnarok in an old Mighty Thor issue showing the destruction of the Old Gods of the Third World.

Oh, I'm well aware of the large connection between Asgard and the New Gods. It's just a bit....weird, for lack of a better word.

It's cool and looks gorgeous though. Odin should upgrade Asgardians across the board. Siege took a flame thrower to their reputation.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Look I agree it's shit writing, but there is absolutely nothing to suggest Odin's purported difficulty with controlling time is voluntary. Pretty unequivocal as statements of limitations go.

I was just pretending that Fraction had written the correct word. He bragged being a big fan of the cosmic Asgardians. A wiki search would tell him his incorrect. Modern writers are extremely lazy. Their editors as well.

Originally posted by McNasty996
When did Odin get above Galactus? Just asking based on answers and not meaning to demean anyone but shouldn't he stop at 1

Odin should lose to Ganthet, iyo?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I guess Fraction didn't read the times Odin/the Odinforce did manipulate time or is ignoring them altogether.

He definitely gets to Nabu, though you could argue him getting to Mordru, too, depending on the incarnation.


Just noticed this.

I'm not sure if there's really much variation in the power level of Nabu, when Nabu actually manifests independently of Fate. Pretty much every time he's fought the Spectre for instance he's given the Spectre a decent fight.

Edit: Or were you referring to Mordru when you said "depending on the incarnation"?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Odin should lose to Ganthet, iyo?

What has Ganthet actually done? To my knowlegde he hasn't done anything combat worthy. However i could be wrong as I don't follow the character. I simply thought that the general consensus is that Galactus is above skyfathers.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Odin should lose to Ganthet, iyo?
Naw Just Shazam if he's at RoE which I would put above Phantom then due to Phantom's relative lack of high end feats. Then again I stopped following Phantom a few years back as I didn't really care too much for him.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Just noticed this.

I'm not sure if there's really much variation in the power level of Nabu, when Nabu actually manifests independently of Fate. Pretty much every time he's fought the Spectre for instance he's given the Spectre a decent fight.

Edit: Or were you referring to Mordru when you said "depending on the incarnation"?

I meant Mordru, yes.

Originally posted by McNasty996
What has Ganthet actually done? To my knowlegde he hasn't done anything combat worthy. However i could be wrong as I don't follow the character. I simply thought that the general consensus is that Galactus is above skyfathers.

Recently Ganthet fought more than a dozen GLs at once and held his own. IIRC he was also pulling his punches because he didn't want to kill them, implying that he could have ended the fight much quicker if he was going all out.

But still nothing on or above Odin level IMO.

Originally posted by McNasty996
What has Ganthet actually done? To my knowlegde he hasn't done anything combat worthy. However i could be wrong as I don't follow the character. I simply thought that the general consensus is that Galactus is above skyfathers.

Recently, he started to own the Parallax possessed members of the GLC. In my opinion, Ganthet hasn't shown much to suggest him beating Odin or even stalemating him.

I'm not sure what Galactus has to do with this thread unless you're referring to the current Galactus Seed arc in Mighty Thor?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
but his durability seems to have taken a dive.

What? Because he was knocked down by Thor?

My bad I read Galactus instead of Ganthet sorry 😖