Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Thanos couldn't reapair the flaw in the Universe without destroying and recreating it . - Not Omnipotent
No one was able to repair the Universe, including "God."
That's the way the story was written.
Thanos clearly stated that "God" himself needed to destroy everything
in order to "Fix" the Flaw:
"had shown me the Error of certain assumptions on my part,
foremost the conclusion that the Previous Almighty
had been nothing but mindless energy"
"the Trap I blundered into"
"what better way to handle a Cosmic dilemma,
than to pass off the responsibility to an unsuspecting fool?"
"I perceived Reality's sole Hope of salvation,
the Cure lay in starting over from scratch ...
I was the perfect candidate to be the destroyer of the Universe"
.........................................................................................
That's very clear,
God/Toaa gave Thanos their "on panel" Power,
so that Thanos could be the one to Fix the 616 Reality,
which supports All of Marvel.
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Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Thanos didn't have a clue that Warlock and Death still exist or where they were . - Not Omniscient & Omnipresent
Actually Thanos Knew exactly where Warlock was.
And on top of that, the story alludes to
Thanos not absorbing the realms beyond Space & Time
because he wanted Warlock to survive,
so that Warlock could witness Thanos' "grand gesture"
that "gesture" being, Thanos saving all of Marvel:
"Warlock, only you could've survived, Of Course,
you and Gamora were OUTSIDE this Reality. (Thanos KNEW)
That saved you from joining your comrades in Oblivion,
I see no reason you should Now not share their fate"
.........................................................................................
Warlock's response to that:
"Except that no one would Witness your grand gesture ...
I understand you better than perhaps, you do yourself"
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Thanos didn't know that he was manipulated . - Not Omniscient
Interesting, when it was Thanos who told us.
Also besides the fact that Warlock told us Thanos always KNEW:
Warlock says,
"Tricked, as much by yourself as by He who's power you coveted"
Next Panel Warlock says,
"I only point out what you already know in your heart"
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Interesting, so God/Toaa didn't fool Thanos anymore than Thanos fooled himself.
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Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Thanos didn't know that he would end up destroying the Universe . - Not Omniscient
My reply to your first quote handles this.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Not so supreme afterall huh ?
From your perspective
(which lacks a detailed recollection of the relevant issues) perhaps,
but now that we've seen the facts with the on panel evidence
it becomes clearer doesn't it.
Just like the first page of #5 is titled:
Thanos had,
"OMNIPOTENCE"
mwahaha
Originally posted by Mr Master
No one was able to repair the Universe, including "God."That's the way the story was written.
Thanos clearly stated that "God" himself needed to destroy everything
in order to "Fix" the Flaw:"had shown me the [B]Error of certain assumptions
on my part,foremost the conclusion that the Previous Almighty
had been nothing but mindless energy""the Trap I blundered into"
"what better way to handle a Cosmic dilemma,
than to pass off the responsibility to an unsuspecting fool?""I perceived Reality's sole Hope of salvation,
the Cure lay in starting over from scratch ...
I was the perfect candidate to be the destroyer of the Universe".........................................................................................
That's very clear,
God/Toaa gave Thanos their "on panel" Power,
so that Thanos could be the one to Fix the 616 Reality,
which supports All of Marvel..........................................................................................
Actually Thanos Knew exactly where Warlock was.
And on top of that, the story alludes to
Thanos not absorbing the realms beyond Space & Time
because he wanted Warlock to survive,so that Warlock could witness Thanos' "grand gesture"
that "gesture" being, Thanos saving all of Marvel:"Warlock, only you could've survived, Of Course,
you and Gamora were OUTSIDE this Reality. (Thanos KNEW)That saved you from joining your comrades in Oblivion,
I see no reason you should Now not share their fate".........................................................................................
Warlock's response to that:
"Except that no one would Witness your grand gesture ...
I understand you better than perhaps, you do yourself"
Interesting, when it was Thanos who told us.
Also besides the fact that Warlock told us Thanos always KNEW:
Warlock says,
"Tricked, as much by yourself as by He who's power you coveted"Next Panel Warlock says,
"I only point out what you already know in your heart".........................................................................................
Interesting, so God/Toaa didn't fool Thanos anymore than Thanos fooled himself.
.........................................................................................My reply to your first quote handles this.
From your perspective
(which lacks a detailed recollection of the relevant issues) perhaps,
but now that we've seen the facts with the on panel evidence
it becomes clearer doesn't it.Just like the first page of #5 is titled:
Thanos had,
"OMNIPOTENCE"
mwahaha [/B]
Originally posted by Superherovandal
nowhere there does it say that God couldn't have fixed it himself without destroying the universe.
"the Trap I blundered into"
"what better way to handle a Cosmic dilemma,
than to pass off the responsibility to an unsuspecting fool"
"I perceived Reality's sole Hope of salvation,
the Cure lay in starting over from scratch ...
I was the perfect candidate to be the destroyer of the Universe"
.........................................................................................
srugdoped
But this is even clearer:
"Reversing the damage became impossible ...
impossible for even he for whom nothing is supposed to be impossible"
Originally posted by Mr Master"the Trap I blundered into"
"[B]what better way to handle a Cosmic dilemma,
"
than to pass off the responsibility to an unsuspecting fool"I perceived Reality's sole Hope of salvation,
the Cure lay in starting over from scratch ...
I was the perfect candidate to be the destroyer of the Universe"
.........................................................................................
srugdoped
But this is even clearer:
"Reversing the damage became impossible ...
impossible for even he for whom nothing is supposed to be impossible" [/B]
Looks as tho God did fix the universe himself to me. he used someone to do it. As he always does. he uses the Lt all the time. But he knew the LT would not destroy everything. So he used Thanos. God made the heart. God put it where thanos could find it. Then god used thanos. God is omnipotent. That literally means in control of everything. Thanos wasn't in control thus he wasn't omnipotent.
By the way, Master, Is the Kirby Avatar Superior to thanos with the heart? Since he sat ABOVe the marvel Omniverse and is shown as having complete control. Something Thanos didnt' have.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Looks as tho God did fix the universe himself to me. he used someone to do it.
Actually on panel Thanos fixed the Universe with God's power.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As he always does. he uses the Lt all the time.
But he knew the LT would not destroy everything.
So he used Thanos.
Actually the LT does whatever is required of him to do.
The LT is more likely of destroying everything than Thanos,
if it's for the purpose of survival through renewal.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
God made the heart.
True.
God made the heart to be his manifested Power & status in the Omniverse.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
God put it where thanos could find it.
This is not true.
Thanos was seeking out the heart since the Infinity Abyss.
In fact, had Akhenaten not showed up with the Celestial Order,
Thanos would've probably never found it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Then god used thanos.
By giving Thanos his Power & status within the Omniverse?
Yes, I agree.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
God is omnipotent.
So was Thanos, because Thanos WAS GOD!
How dare these cretins defy their Supreme Being?
Was I not Now the End-All and Be-All of Reality?
Their very existence was by My Whim"
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That literally means in control of everything.
Thanos had GOD's power and status within the Omniverse.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thanos wasn't in control thus he wasn't omnipotent.
firefirefireph
Whatever you say.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
By the way, Master, Is the Kirby Avatar Superior to thanos with the heart?
THOTI is the manifestation of God/Toaa's (Kirby+Collab) Power withIN the Omniverse.
Thanos became everything the Kirby avatar was,
because the Kirby avatar wanted it that way.
But the God/Toaa (Kirby+Collab)
will always be above anything or any story that takes place on panel in Marvel,
because they create and draw these stroies for us to read.
So in esssence, God/Toaa made a story where Thanos had their Power,
hence "The End: Marvel" 🙂
"Thanos eradicated the Order, they ... Pronounced him GOD" ...
Plain english ... but I'm sure it won't be enough for you.
So many times stated on panel and in separate bios, still you refuse.
Michael claims to have God's power once and it isn't questioned once. 😂
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Since he sat ABOVe the marvel Omniverse and is shown as having complete control.
Something Thanos didnt' have. [/B]
Thanos was the embodiment of the Omniverse,
Thanos absorbed the LT (secong to God)
Thanos was acknowledged as having the Supreme Power (Power of God)
by more than one legitimate voice, including the LT's and Eternity's.
Thanos was GOD according to Marvel bios, Marvel.com and The End: Marvel
and follow up arcs like The Thanos series and Annihilation.
So ... was Thanos manipulated?
Yes.
What were the circumstances of that manipulation?
Thanos was given the Power and status of God Almighty the Supreme Being of Marvel.
So Thanos had the power of GOD regardless?
That's what I'm saying.
The bottomline is ... Thanos was EVERYTHING the Kirby avatar was:
"Eternity, you must sense that Everything the Almighty was I NOW AM"
........................................................................................
Because the Kirby avatar WANTED it that way.
Originally posted by Air Legend
You were arguing not to long ago that God doesn't need to use someone or something because he is God. Now you're saying the opposite. What gives?
I'm not arguing the opposite. Obviously you don't understand the argument. God was always iN control. thus he did it himself. Somethings God just let's happen. this would be chaos. Things that HAVE TO be ordered, are ordered. Thanos was merely a pawn of Gods. Kirby used him to tell a story and entertain himself while at the same time, fixing the flaw.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually on panel Thanos fixed the Universe with God's power.Actually the LT does whatever is required of him to do.
The LT is more likely of destroying everything than Thanos,
if it's for the purpose of survival through renewal.True.
God made the heart to be his manifested Power & status in the Omniverse.
This is not true.
Thanos was seeking out the heart since the Infinity Abyss.
In fact, had Akhenaten not showed up with the Celestial Order,
Thanos would've probably never found it.By giving Thanos his Power & status within the Omniverse?
Yes, I agree.
So was Thanos, because Thanos WAS GOD!
How dare these cretins defy their [B]Supreme Being
?Was I not Now the End-All and Be-All of Reality?
Their very existence was by My Whim"
Thanos had GOD's power and status within the Omniverse.
firefirefireph
Whatever you say.
THOTI is the manifestation of God/Toaa's (Kirby+Collab) Power withIN the Omniverse.
Thanos became everything the Kirby avatar was,
because the Kirby avatar wanted it that way.But the God/Toaa (Kirby+Collab)
will always be above anything or any story that takes place on panel in Marvel,
because they create and draw these stroies for us to read.So in esssence, God/Toaa made a story where Thanos had their Power,
hence "The End: Marvel" 🙂
"Thanos eradicated the Order, they ... Pronounced him GOD" ...
Plain english ... but I'm sure it won't be enough for you.
So many times stated on panel and in separate bios, still you refuse.
Michael claims to have God's power once and it isn't questioned once. 😂
Thanos was the embodiment of the Omniverse,
Thanos absorbed the LT (secong to God)
Thanos was acknowledged as having the Supreme Power (Power of God)
by more than one legitimate voice, including the LT's and Eternity's.
Thanos was GOD according to Marvel bios, Marvel.com and The End: Marvel
and follow up arcs like The Thanos series and Annihilation.So ... was Thanos manipulated?
Yes.
What were the circumstances of that manipulation?
Thanos was given the Power and status of God Almighty the Supreme Being of Marvel.
So Thanos had the power of GOD regardless?
That's what I'm saying.
The bottomline is ... Thanos was EVERYTHING the Kirby avatar was:
"Eternity, you must sense that Everything the Almighty was I NOW AM"
........................................................................................Because the Kirby avatar WANTED it that way. [/B]
Michael doesn't claim to have god's power. Micheal is Gods power. And Thanos wasn't everything the kirby avatar was, becuz the kirby avatar was always in full control, AND aboave the marvel omniverse. These two things , no matter how you post, cannot be denied. everyone can see this but those who refuse to accept the logic. The Kirby avatar was shown ABOVE it all. Thanos was never above anything. And the heart was not the totality of the one above all's power. It was something created by the one above all for an assignment. Why would go give someone the totality of his power and then just hope they return it? It could never be the totality of his power, becuz then the person would have to have the keys to fate, as well as destiny, and they would have to be omnicient. That means ALL knowing. Thanos wasn't omnicient. he dind't know he was being used. Thus he was NEVER everything the almighty was. and you can post a trillion of the same scans, You cannot refute this logic.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Michael doesn't claim to have god's power. Micheal is Gods power.
Of course he is, I mean he said it once.
Yea, yea I know,
there's atleast 10 references to Thanos being Supreme but,
what do On Panel statements mean in Marvel right Nvr.
Oh, I shouldn't mention the Bios and Marvel.com the official site,
but again, what do they know.
How can they possibly know more than you who's never read The End?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And Thanos wasn't everything the kirby avatar was, becuz the kirby avatar was always in full control, AND aboave the marvel omniverse. These two things , no matter how you post, cannot be denied. everyone can see this but those who refuse to accept the logic. The Kirby avatar was shown ABOVE it all. Thanos was never above anything. And the heart was not the totality of the one above all's power. It was something created by the one above all for an assignment. Why would go give someone the totality of his power and then just hope they return it? It could never be the totality of his power, becuz then the person would have to have the keys to fate, as well as destiny, and they would have to be omnicient. That means ALL knowing. Thanos wasn't omnicient. he dind't know he was being used. Thus he was NEVER everything the almighty was. and you can post a trillion of the same scans,You cannot refute this logic.
Expected ... durznuts
You're willfully ignoring On Panel artwork and character statements.
then coming back with these unsupported theories cause you can't stand the truth.
Marvel On Panel depictions,
Marvel Handbooks,
and Marvel.com,
these 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever you have to say.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I also notice master,
when ever some one brings up a point to which you cannot refute,
you just post a lil insulting crazy smiley.
Dude, you're a headache.
Debating with you is pointless to begin with but I beat myself up anyway.
You have the odacity to make this claim?
I been addressing your misconstrude info for about a Year now.
How many times can you tell and SHOW a child 1+1 = 2
before you just ignore the poor soul out of frustration?
I should be awarded for my patience with the intransigence I'm up against.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Your obvious.
But probably not as obvious as your sock accounts.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
you should be slicker about your in ability to refute the comment.
You should cloak your Lies better and spew less stink out that grill piece.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Of course he is, I mean he said it once.Yea, yea I know,
there's atleast 10 references to Thanos being Supreme but,
what do On Panel statements mean in Marvel right Nvr.Oh, I shouldn't mention the Bios and Marvel.com the official site,
but again, what do they know.How can they possibly know more than you who's never read The End?
Expected ... durznuts
You're willfully ignoring On Panel artwork and character statements.
then coming back with these unsupported theories cause you can't stand the truth.
Marvel On Panel depictions,
Marvel Handbooks,
and Marvel.com,these 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever you have to say.
I ahve read no bio, or any thing that says that Thanos had the power of the one above all.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Dude, you're a headache.Debating with you is pointless to begin with but I beat myself up anyway.
You have the odacity to make this claim?
I been addressing your misconstrude info for about a Year now.
How many times can you tell and SHOW a child 1+1 = 2
before you just ignore the poor soul out of frustration?I should be awarded for my patience with the intransigence I'm up against.
But probably not as obvious as your sock accounts.
You should cloak your Lies better and spew less stink out that grill piece.
Originally posted by Air Legend
The same thing that Erik guy says except in a nicer tone and without an insult of "you lack intelligence".
The similarities between nvr and erik are quite apparent.
Originally posted by Air Legend
You're lucky Captain Rex is biased. I could report you for calling me an idiot.
Hah!
I'm not biased, you're just wrong more often than they are. If you have a problem with that, then don't visit the Comic Vs. boards or complain to Raz. I can easily take care of the first if you maintain that attitude of things.
In any case, everyone please refrain from the idiot-name-flinging.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And the similiarities between those who who can't comprehend that thanos wasn't god is more apparent and more real.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
stop trying to be an investigator. me and erik aren't the same person.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hell, I sometimes wonder if you and quan aren't the same.