Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Do you follow me?
Matthew 23:23 (New International Version)
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former."
Here Jesus says that you should obey ALL the laws of god.
Matthew 5:20 (New International Version)
"For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."
Jesus says you must be as dedicated to the law as the law-keepers of the day. If you follow the commandments less, you cannot enter heaven. And so, Jesus says that you must follow the laws to enter heaven.
And, most damning of all, Jesus states flat-out that you should follow every word of the law, that he will not change one word of the law, and that those who break the law or teach others to (as you do) break the law are against God.
Matthew 5:17-19 (New International Version)
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
Re: Re: 90 Minutes in Heaven
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Dead people do not return from the dead. Those who have near death experiences (NDE) did not die; they nearly died. People who have had NDE who live in other cultures have experiences that are consistent with their culture. Therefore a Christian will have a Christian experience and Hindu will have a Hindu experience. This is proof of nothing, other then insight into the way that the brain works.
All I ask you to do is to prove what you say with evidence.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f80/t587086.html
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=586713&pagenumber=7#post14512113
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=587086&pagenumber=1#post14510871 (click here if you can handle the Truth)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=587086&pagenumber=1#post14510888
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f80/t587049.html
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=14510387#post14510387
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=14510685#post14510685
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=587086&pagenumber=1#post14510714
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=587086&pagenumber=1#post14510772
Originally posted by King Kandy
If you truly believed this you would not speak out against homosexuality, for the prohibition against that to is part of the old covenant. In any case this is nonsense, and I will show you why.Matthew 23:23 (New International Version)
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, [B]without neglecting the former.
"Here Jesus says that you should obey ALL the laws of god.
Matthew 5:20 (New International Version)
"For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."
Jesus says you must be as dedicated to the law as the law-keepers of the day. If you follow the commandments less, you cannot enter heaven. And so, Jesus says that you must follow the laws to enter heaven.
And, most damning of all, Jesus states flat-out that you should follow every word of the law, that he will not change one word of the law, and that those who break the law or teach others to (as you do) break the law are against God.
Matthew 5:17-19 (New International Version)
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven." [/B]
The Old Testament is replete with types and shadows, or prefigurements of the Lord Jesus Christ, and what He would do on behalf of humanity in order to redeem us from the wages of our sins.
The lamb, the goat, the Passover blood above the lintel, the ark of the covenant, the mercy seat, the rock that Moses struck, Noah's ark, the flood, the tabernacle of meeting, the bread of the presence, the menorah, Moses, his brother Aaron the high priest, pharaoh, Egypt, the Canaanites, the giants in the land, the land of Canaan, manna, the ten commandments, etc. foreshadowed the work of Christ.
The Lord Jesus did not come to abolish the tenor of the Law of Moses, because He needed to fulfill it for our sake.
However, there are a number of practices under the Law of Moses that are no longer applicable today.
For example, the Levitical, sacrificial system--which foreshadowed, and was a type of the true sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross which took away the sin of the world--is no longer necessary.
The Old Testament--which includes the Law of Moses--was intended to point up humanity's inability or incapacity, and to highlight our need for the Savior.
The Law was our (i.e. humanity's) school master or guardian to bring or lead us to Christ.
Like a reflection in a mirror the Law shows us our nature.
The Law of Moses (which included the ten commandments) represented the perfect will of the righteous God for His people.
No one was capable of keeping the Law of Moses perfectly that's why the high priest had to continually, year-after-year, offer animal sacrifices to God on behalf of the children of Israel, in order to avert the wrath of the holy God against sin.
The Lord Jesus--bless His holy Name forever--was the ONLY ONE--Who ever perfectly kept His Father's Law.
That's what the Lord Jesus meant by He did not come to abolish the Law of Moses but to FULFILL IT.
Lord Jesus came to fulfill the Law of Moses for humanity so that we could become the righteousness of God IN HIM i.e. by trusting or putting our faith in Jesus Christ.
By faith we are saved through FAITH and not of ourselves i.e not by our own righteous merit.
Ephesians 2:7-9
7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Titus 3:4-6
4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us , through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 Whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
Re: 90 Minutes in Heaven
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveHe was hallucinating.
http://www.90minutesinheaven.com/ (click “launch video” for prelude to Don Piper’s true life account)http://www.truthsthattransform.org/ (click on this link then under the title, “90 Minutes in Heaven (Part 1) click the word “listen” then click “play.”
Why is Heaven real? Listen to this man’s true life story.
I have longed to induce one such hallucination of my own design - but generating the neurotransmitters requires the inducement of substances I can not get a hold of.
Re: Re: 90 Minutes in Heaven
Originally posted by Dolos
He was hallucinating.I have longed to induce one such hallucination of my own design - but generating the neurotransmitters requires the inducement of substances I can not get a hold of.
Prove it.
You made the claim now prove that he was just hallucinating.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=420368&pagenumber=19#post14525993
Re: Re: Re: 90 Minutes in Heaven
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Prove it.You made the claim now prove that he was just hallucinating.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=420368&pagenumber=19#post14525993
Re: Re: 90 Minutes in Heaven
Originally posted by Dolos
He was hallucinating.I have longed to induce one such hallucination of my own design - but generating the neurotransmitters requires the inducement of substances I can not get a hold of.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=420368&pagenumber=19#post14525993
Hallucinations are not coherent, abstract experiences, but distortions of it.
Hallucinations are distortions of reality.
Hallucinations do not bring peace and joy, but trauma, distress, and can endanger the life of the hallucinator.
Furthermore, a hallucinator is usually conscious while hallucinating.
Ron Piper's body was completely lifeless.
He i.e. the real Ron who is a spirit just like God, was GONE.
Ron's spirit was in Heaven as his mangled, broken, soul-less body lie in the twisted car that had just been fatally crushed by an 18- wheeler.
Ron had been certified dead by the police officers as they awaited the coroner to transport his dead body to the morgue.
Hence, Ron Piper's experience in Heaven was not a hallucination.
A True Story of Death & Life. 90 Minutes in Heaven
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=420368&pagenumber=2 (90 Minutes in Heaven)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6msFt4rnh-0
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=420368&pagenumber=19#post14525993
Originally posted by siriuswriter
Whoa whoa whoa. JIA, aren't you/weren't you banned?
No, but I was.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=420368&pagenumber=19#post14526059
Re: Re: Re: 90 Minutes in Heaven
Have to repost this again due to my error.
Correction: Don Piper not Ron Piper.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=420368&pagenumber=19#post14525993
Hallucinations are not coherent, abstract experiences, but distortions of it.
Hallucinations are distortions of reality.
Hallucinations do not bring peace and joy, but trauma, distress, and can endanger the life of the hallucinator.
Furthermore, a hallucinator is usually conscious while hallucinating.
Don Piper's body was completely lifeless.
He i.e. the real Don who is a spirit just like God, was GONE.
Don's spirit was in Heaven as his mangled, broken, soul-less body lie in the twisted car that had just been fatally crushed by an 18- wheeler.
Don had been certified dead by the police officers as they awaited the coroner to transport his dead body to the morgue.
Hence, Don Piper's experience in Heaven was not a hallucination.
A True Story of Death & Life. 90 Minutes in Heaven
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=420368&pagenumber=2 (90 Minutes in Heaven)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6msFt4rnh-0
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=420368&pagenumber=19#post14525993 [/B][/QUOTE]