Originally posted by KeollynNo, because lightning isn't light speed, neither are lasers, but that IS a good feat for witch time. Thanks for being the first one to actually provide it, rather than try to downplay the laser feat. Now we may go somewhere.
Can I use Bayo's feat of dodging lightning and her witch time being down as lightspeed then?Outliers are awesome like that you know.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No, because lightning isn't light speed, neither are lasers, but that IS a good feat for witch time. Thanks for being the first one to actually provide it, rather than try to downplay the laser feat. Now we may go somewhere.
I know lightning isn't lightspeed
🙁
And I think you remember me saying I don't care enough to deny something because it's all subjective in the end.
Originally posted by KeollynMeh. You never get threads where peopel construct arguments using feats anymore, they spend all their time trying to disprove the feats of the other character and it's significantly less enjoyable and results in me being a bastard and not caring 27 pages later becasue of how stupid it is. This is where my comments on bullets came from.
I know lightning isn't lightspeed🙁
And I think you remember me saying I don't care enough to deny something because it's all subjective in the end.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
That's pretty evil. Sheik so far > Bayonetta.
Sheik isn't hurting Bayonetta with Light Arrows. The Umbra Witch dodges lightning and bullets fired inches from her body without using Witch Time.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Edit: when did Bayonetta become as evil as Kratos? I'm assuming that was a sarcastic remark, since Kratos has a pile of feats of douchebaggery, while Bayonetta is just obnoxious? (Her existance is an evil act by Capcom >_>😉
Killing angels and making deals with demons is not exactly what I'd call a good guy. The only thing seperates her from Kratos is that she doesn't go around killing innocent people.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Nah, your arguments are just getting lazier and lazier and I'm bored from 27 pages of you denying feats. 😐Page one, Link dodges lasers. Page 27, Link still dodges lasers. You deny they're fast because they're visible. This is as fallacious a remark as is possible to make in reference to fiction, as we need to see it to comprehend wtf is going on. Kthnx.
Mastersword, the blackhole PIS weapon of the Zelda universe which defends Link from Ganon's broken ass powers, and has cutscenes backing it doing just that, your defense? A strawman fallacy, and the claim that TK isn't used on Link. (It is.) You then accuse me of trying to save face as thoguh you've made some sort of ground breaking argument, when all you've done is behave in a way similar to BT, in a thread that's going nowhere.
I think it's pretty obvious why you've been banned from Smash Boards. Your hypocrisy shown in this thread is astonishing.
Keollyn has posted more vids of Bayonetta's feats than I ever did and all you posted was 1 Brawl video of a feat that's nothing Bayonetta can't do. Now it's my turn to post more proof.
YouTube video
3:47-4:01
Bayonetta gets slammed to the ground by tentacles. She then emerges from the wreckage, unharmed.
YouTube video
0:44
Bayonetta slices through tentacles with magic-enhanced fingernails.
Bayonetta is far and beyond SSBB Sheik and Link. With Sephiroth and Kratos in the thread, curbstomb isn't even the word to describe this fight.
While BurningThought makes some of the lolzy arguments I've seen in this side of KMC, he at least provides proof what Kain can do even though he exaggerates it to such high levels. You just use mostly game mechanics and toonforce to claim Nintendo characters can deal with characters surpassing their own power. And then there's cutscenes showing feats, you automatically think they pwn the thread even the other character(s) can easily do the same feats and much more. That's what I call fanboyism.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
edit- and to be fair, its logical to assume that lasers within the SSBB dont work in the same manner as they do in real life, because science in general doesnt work in the same way that it does in real life. like the arwings for example.
Originally posted by General Kaliero
If bullet-dodging is counted as a feat, laser-dodging is by definition an equal feat, unless specific fiction has shown lasers to travel faster or slower.And don't bother claiming real-world science here. Actual lasers are near-instantaneous continuous beams, and future laser-based weaponry will be laser-guided ionized plasma streams that also move near-instantaneously.
Originally posted by Burning thought
A lot of games have lasers and their certainly far slower than light, like in SSB, and in some cases slower than ballistic weapons such as bullets/rfiles etcGreat example of how fictional lasers can be slower than the theoretical use of real laser weapons irl.
Originally posted by Nephthys
We can see that Link and Mario are moving at real speed becuase of how slowly the floor cracks go past.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Never said things in fiction dont work the same as in real life, near the opposite. In the scene a bullet is fired from a gun; we know how this works irl. In the scene lasers are shot out; we dont know how this works as we dont have laser guns irl. What we do know is that laser guns are used in other media where they are not at real lasers speeds.Point is that lets say they were running at 10m/s we can use that as a base to see how fast the lasers were going by comparison. In this case not at real lasers speeds.
If they wanted real lasers they can easily of made them faster and function like real lasers. Good lil webbie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raygun where 'laser' is referred to 42 times. Mainly the 'function' part. Fiction laser guns are not as fast as real lasers.
Lets see, first one, second one, or my one that is has facts on it? Gonna have to go for the latter.
-Lasers are slow because we can see them based off the speed of the scene and that we have no real laser guns to base it off
-A bullet achieving visible heat from air resistance below mach 1 is impossible. as we do have guns to prove this
Have to ask again for the 3rd or somethingth time for you to prove that those particular lasers move at real laser speeds even if the speed of that scene and other laser guns in media's say otherwise.
Nyeh, seems we've moved to TK. Well Zant doesnt use TK in his boss fight which he would likely do being him. Though, it could be asked to how he knew his TK wouldnt work. Need to check the scenes.
Onto Sheik and Bay. Precision is Bay's as yes the Airwing was fast but Sheik teleported onto it when it was going in a straight line towards them not manoeuvring around, Bay hit a small target (no offence to the statue 😏) without even looking at it. Can run faster then cars (got a crazy girl forcing me to say that ''it was in heels no less!'' >__>;; ) to unknown Sheiks speed. Not to mention;
''And Bayo has witch time'' ~Keollyn. Just to secure the speed.
And if Bay follows the laws that say a punch would be stronger then a headbutt then shes pegged strength too. More so as;
''The Arwings in Brawl aren't the same as the ones in Star Fox 64. In Brawl, it was knocked out of the air by a grappling arm and then totaled by Rayquaza's Dragon Pulse. And don't say, "But Rayquaza is a strong Pokemon". It wouldn't survive a fight with Venom.
Also, when has the Arwing taken a hit from a crust-piercing laser? Don't give me gameplay because that's not proof enough.'' ~Sin_Volvagia.
The grappling arm hit the stronger body of the Airwing and wreaked it.
Been enough Bayonetta evidence to know these things. Everyone knows Kratos's side in the fight and Seph is being underestimated due to the claims of overestimation.
Shooting a small target > Landing on an extremely fast moving Arwign while it dodges lasers? LOLWUT? A human being could feasibly make the shot Bayonetta did. 😬 It'd take luck, or a lot of practice, but is physicly possible. Whereas a human given the power to teleport qould just either 1. Miss horribly
2. Misshorribly and get laser'd
3. miss horribly and splatter on the windshield
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Teleportation isn't instant in most fiction. Not sure where you're getting that.Sure you would get to that location instantly, but you have to regather your molecules, which takes time.
Teleportation is always instant.
Teletransportation, however, isn't.
Don't confuse the two little one.