Meh I still think SSJ 4 is too cluttered. I mean the hair and the eyes were pretty cool but wait! He has a tail again. And look! he's grown fur on his bare Lautner chest!
I bet the producer's had to grab the artist's hand like "NO! Stop! He doesn't need wings!"
While it's not my favorite thing, I do like that it put the great ape aspects on display again. Since that aspect of the race just stopped mattering all together prior to that.
Part of the reason the only SSJ4 look that I particularly liked was Gogeta's. The coloration is more in line with that of an actual Oozaru instead of just red for no reason in terms of the fur, and I always hated the use of their natural hair color for the form--really took away alot of presence in terms of power that SSJ forms were known for, and didn't even have anything like a fancy aura to really make up for that like SSG God did (the wild fiery aura was my favorite feature of either SSJ God form), but the fact that Gogeta had all of those things in his SSJ4 is what really helped improve my opinion on his form over just Goku's or Vegeta's, not to mention Goku's fur practically borders on like, a hot pink in some shots.
Dragon ball is like Naruto, or vice versa. They have a great cast, but refuses to use them.
Piccolo had so much potential, that it always baffle me that Toriyama just threw him away without a second thought after more Saiyans were introduced.
Vegeta took over as Goku's rival were Piccolo's reasoning for been Goku's rival was so much sweeter.
After the super saiyan were introduced, the z fighters turned to the Super Saiyan fighters and cast.
Adult Gohan was another one that he thee away. Gohan going to school and the dumb things he did reminded me of early Dragon ball Goku. Then he introduced full potential gohan, only to waste his potential just to make Goku and Vegeta be the hero.
I just hope this new series goes back to early Dragon ball and early Z where all the characters were relevant.
Yes, that also includes Yamcha, before the whole vegeta and Bulma cock hold him spiral he went on and never recoved form.
They actually did tell the story if the 'what if future trunks had to deal with the buu saga' in a game called ' Dragon Ball Z - Shin Budokai: Another Road ' which was totally dedicated to it. Not saying it wouldn't be a good show but I find most people who want to see this don't know about this game.
So the first issue of the manga is out. Couldn't find a scanilation of it, but I looked at the pics and read a summary. It's set before BoG and even contradicts a few things from the film. Looking at it, I could easily see the new arc be a retelling of BoG.
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"His Name is Champa!!
Revealed in the main visual!! Who the heck is this new character “Champa” that’s next to Beerus…?!"
The name of the corresponding Whis-analogue seen along with Champa on the official promo pic not yet been revealed.
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The most important tid-bits to take away from the above pages...
"Super SCOOP!! #1: Dragon Ball Super is set slightly after the showdown with Majin Buu!
Dragon Ball Super is a gem of an original story, from an original draft provided by manga author Akira Toriyama-sensei! This series is a super tale that depicts what happens “afterwards” to Goku and the gang following the titanic battle with Majin Buu, and links up with the movies Battle of Gods and Revival of “F”!!"
"Super SCOOP!! #3: Already well-known from the movies!? For the first time, Beerus and Whis join the fray in a TV series!!
The God of Destruction Beerus and his servant Whis have already cut quite a figure in the two latest movies, and now they’re set to appear as regular cast members for this TV series! Far stronger than the likes of Freeza, Cell, or Majin Buu, Beerus will run amok in the new series!?"
How do they expect to get by with Beerus if the series is only after the Buu saga? Was he not asleep for almost 40 straight years? It's not a total complaint as Beerus and Whis have since been some of my favorite new things about Dragon Ball, but right now, it's kinda screaming "plot hole". I'm hoping it's not a matter of Toriyama forgetting or something--he's usually the first to admit something like that about himself, but this would just be asinine. Hell, I'll bet he's forgotten that he originally said he aimed to make any new DB Series star Mr. Satan/Hercule.
My guess (and hope) is that it only STARTS after the Buu saga and progresses through and past the movies. At this point, the last manga chapter has all but lost relevance imho.
Last edited by BloodRawEngine on Jun 20th, 2015 at 09:46 PM
The last manga chapter still works since 10 years later. Actually it kinda makes Goku fighting the reincarnation of Buu in his base form makes sense. Not that the fight was dangerous.
I have no idea why Toriyama wants to ignore little Uub though. I like the little fellow.
I think this is exactly how the series will progress.
Yeah, the final chapter of Z doesn't really doesn't mesh with current continuity at all.
BoG is set 4 years after the conclusion of the Buu saga--and RoF takes place fairly soon after that(within a year or two, most logically.) So by the final chapter of Z(which was set 10 years after the conclusion of the Buu saga, remember), the thought of fighting a Buu-level opponent(which is what Uub had the potential to become) definitely wouldn't have been exciting for Goku anymore, given the events of the films... Buu-level power has simply dwindled into utter insignificance now.
As of BoG, Goku's base power was nearly on par with that of his full-fledged SSJG amp, and still enough to challenge Beerus. Tack on the fact that Goku now has Beerus and Whis to spar with(hell, their doppelgangers will also be entering the fray pretty soon), and there is really no reason that Goku would be uber-excited to fight a potential Buu-level opponent. That's a massive downgrade for him, really.
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