Pre crisis Superman vs the Marvel U

Originally posted by cdtm
Well, yeah. Far as I know, Superman doesn't sneeze. 😉

Superman is always in control, the mxy dust caused him to lose control and he had seconds to fly to a dead universe to let out a sneeze. no where did it say that the dust will make him sneeze with that much destructive force.

Superman didnt want to let out a uncontrollable sneeze because he knew his level of power. Superman was unaware of any amp by the dust. So there would be no point in looking for a dead universe.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Shortened, clickable link version of the above.

See also Galactus versus Marvel U. Earth, Heroes Reborn 4 part saga, and Marvel U. Earth versus Exitar.

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time travel and teleport devices Do work on pre-Crisis Supes, even without Kryptonite, Magic, or Red Sun:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=15999523

heroes have time and teleport tech

Note that Superman would likely NOT be able to duplicate what Deus Ex Machina Betty does here to thwart the attempt, which would otherwise have been successful:

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Red She-Hulk versus Avengers

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14067091
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14067101
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Source: Incredible Hulk #607, Volume 1
Writer: Greg Pak
Penciller: Paul Pelletier
Date: February 17, 2010
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http://marvel.wikia.com/Incredible_Hulk_Vol_1_607

Complete facepalm.

He got KO by a time shattering device of "titanic force", but he is pretty capable of traveling in time, just in case you didn't know.

Yes, he can time travel on sheer speed. He can shove things with enough force they *fly through time*. He did this with a person and a small plane. True story one time as a kid he shoved another kid on the playground and the kid was then murdered by dinosaurs in the past.

Also pretty sure one time he vibrated the entire planet out of phase or something. To defeat some radiation monster I think? Or just because he was bored, I forget the reason.

Doom solos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Doom solos.

A nigh indestructible super strong entity that can move at speeds far far in excess of light, to the point where cosmic beings need to step in to stop him because he is going to fast.

Doom's instruments detect some massively fast object heading towards earth, before he can even finish a thought of "I wonder what this is and how I, Doom, can beat it?" the Earth just explodes because this invulnerable super strong super fast entity has just plowed right straight through to the core of the planet and out the other side.

If Superman is bent on total destruction as opposed to world domination nobody on Earth is even going to realize there is any danger until they are all dead.

Originally posted by Surtur
A nigh indestructible super strong entity that can move at speeds far far in excess of light, to the point where cosmic beings need to step in to stop him because he is going to fast.

Doom's instruments detect some massively fast object heading towards earth, before he can even finish a thought of "I wonder what this is and how I, Doom, can beat it?" the Earth just explodes because this invulnerable super strong super fast entity has just plowed right straight through to the core of the planet and out the other side.

If Superman is bent on total destruction as opposed to world domination nobody on Earth is even going to realize there is any danger until they are all dead.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Magic. Huge weakness. Doom is too smart to get caught with his pants down against this exaggerated Boy Scout.

Magic is a huge weakness. It's why, I suppose, he was made immune to it for this fight.

Oh and he's been made immune to kryptonite and red sun radiation as well.

It's almost like the person who made this fight wanted someone to defeat Supes with raw power as opposed to just easily exploiting a weakness.

Originally posted by Stoic
Ask yourself if Strange would cross the line in this particular instance.

Absolutely. The problem is, in this instance so is the guy that could probably search every square inch of the Earth in under a second... Many times over, likely.

Originally posted by cdtm
Absolutely. The problem is, in this instance so is the guy that could probably search every square inch of the Earth in under a second... Many times over, likely.

Plus, Supes is immune to magic.

Originally posted by Surtur
Magic is a huge weakness. It's why, I suppose, he was made immune to it for this fight.

Oh and he's been made immune to kryptonite and red sun radiation as well.

It's almost like the person who made this fight wanted someone to defeat Supes with raw power as opposed to just easily exploiting a weakness.

Sentry solos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So the op felt Superman needed immunities he doesn't outright have to take this challenge on.

Sentry solos.

Makes sense to me. The immunities, I mean. Keeps the thread from devolving to weakness exploitations.

Personally, I think he could do well without them in a "kill everyone, i discriminately, as fast as you can" mindset because there's no "speedster mages".

Yeah, they could probably cast a spell to fix that, but not at default.

Originally posted by cdtm
Makes sense to me. The immunities, I mean. Keeps the thread from devolving to weakness exploitations.

Personally, I think he could do well without them in a "kill everyone, i discriminately, as fast as you can" mindset because there's no "speedster mages".

Yeah, they could probably cast a spell to fix that, but not at default.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Void would just rip him in half. There's nothing Superman can do to beat him. The same can't be said conversely here. Void ftw. Poor Superman.

Nope, Void has defined limits. Superman has no limits at all. He's defined by the power of plot. 😉

Also, is Sentry High Herald level? I was under the impression he was trans. Team wrecking and all that. Treating HHs like Thor like a feeb.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
[B]Everyone has a plan until PC Superman PUNCHES THEIR FACE OFF!!!! [/B]

I love that Iron Mike quote .

Originally posted by Surtur
A nigh indestructible super strong entity that can move at speeds far far in excess of light, to the point where cosmic beings need to step in to stop him because he is going to fast.

Doom's instruments detect some massively fast object heading towards earth, before he can even finish a thought of "I wonder what this is and how I, Doom, can beat it?" the Earth just explodes because this invulnerable super strong super fast entity has just plowed right straight through to the core of the planet and out the other side.

If Superman is bent on total destruction as opposed to world domination nobody on Earth is even going to realize there is any danger until they are all dead.

Which is why I asked the Original Poster (OP) of this thread if destroying the planet is Superman's only goal or if this insane rage of his is making him target people. Otherwise he just made a spite thread. It'd be like me proposing the following scenario:

"You're fast asleep.
From 3 feet away, a gunman fires a .44 Magnum at your head ...
Who wins?" ...

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Complete facepalm.

He got KO by a time shattering device of "titanic force", but he is pretty capable of traveling in time, just in case you didn't know.

That "time sattering device of titanic force" was made of common household items:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=15999422

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=15999422

Clickable version of the scan of my previous post. Is anything more exotic than tungsten from a light bulb and citric acid from some orange juice mentioned here?

Originally posted by BlueFnord
I love that Iron Mike quote .

Tyson has a lot of great quotes and his insights into fighting are very interesting and articulate.

Per Darksaint, Thor beats Pre Crisis Superman 10/10.