Battlezone:quanchi112 vs nverbeenwthagirl

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have already shown you the scan of Thanos being able to resist reality warping.

Superman has defeated darkseid by plot devices but also without one. Calling a writer stupid isnt a valid point. We can only go on what each character has done through canon panel evidence. Your personal feelings about something that has happpened over and over again means nothing here.

OH quan. I've posted so many scans of DS bitching Superman. I've debunked one of the "defeats" by showing DS injuring himself and superman getting a sun amp. So now it's up to you to show us Superman beating DS over and over. Where are all these mysterious defeats youlike to bring up. And even if you can produce more than one, Superman is a special being whom i've already shown that is able to perform skyfather lvl feats. The case with Superman is covered. I've closed all the loop holes and left no room for doubt.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No you missed the point. They DIDNT want to injure Darkseid and he didnt injure them in return. No one was injured. So while ds wanted to injure these beings for driving him back to where he came from the Legion just wanted him back. Ds wanted to injure them and failed while the Legion wanted him through the portal. They succeeded while Darkseid failed.

Also note nver that they went back in time to save the younger ds from being destroyed by the timestream.

I take it you dont' understand story element. We've seen DS kill or severly injure too many beings stronger than the legiont o think he was incapable of such.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First of all, I've already shown that Superman can accomplish skyfather lvl feats. You yourself just said that Superman can accomplish what even daxamites cannot. And Monel has some uber feats of his own. We also know that Doomsday is a beast. He also blind sided DS from behind, After he recieved a nice amp via the omega beams.

The silver surfer never uses his speed in a one on one as does Superman or even DS for that matter. The point is moot. We have almost no examples of surfer doing any kind of tacticle speed blitzing. I also want you to realize that DS is more powerful than anyone that Thanos has faced who would use Superspeed. It's not that Thanos can't take speed alone. We know he can. But show me Thanos taking The speed of DS with the POWER and STRENGTH of DS.

One reason DS doesn't use those skills is becuz he doesn't have to. He has a planet full of warriors. He's also said out of his own mouth that he let's others fight becuz he likes to corrupt them. You also miss the point about Gamora, she was evading his attacks and drew blood. DS is easily faster than her, and was shown using uber agility. Now DS is also far stronger than Gamora. So one can't just easily look over the fact that DS can replicate Gamora's hand to hand and with greater effect becuz he's FASTER AND STRONGER.

You miss the point. Batman had a special suit that had allowed him to be as effective on the mission team as everyone else. He was in the company of Barda, Superman, and Wonder Woman. Up until that point, He had sustained not an injury. Batman has evaded Superman's blows before. And yet amped with a special suit, And a MOTHER BOX, he got owned in hand to hand. DS bitched him with speed and skill.

Again with saying tha Thanos hasnt faced someone with Ds speed and power all rolled int one you are right he hasnt faced Darkseid. But you have failed to show me ONE SINGLE SCAN corroborating this theory of yours. If you can back up a theory with one scan backing up what you say ALL you have is SPECULATION.

You are partially right about Ds not having to use his skills that often. He has a vast planet of resources and warrior backing him up. Very few beings have the opportunity to face Ds one on one. He usually doesnt put himself in a position to get beat by uber beings. When Doomsday took him on he had to go through a lot of Ds troops and resources on Apokolips. In the Batman story arc they had to find Darkseid. They foolishly tricked him int stalking Superman without a planet of allies at his side and you saw the result.

Ds isnt known around his universe as being one of the greatest and highly skilled fighters like Gamora. When Ds was showing off his martial arts skills he did nothing to prove he was superior to Orion. Sure he threw the fight but who says he could have won it in this battle of quickness. Gamora has the reputation and wasnt engaging Thanos for real. He wasnt threatened by her and hasnt lost to her in a serious fight. Moot point.

Yes Batman is a warrior but he in this special suit would lose royally to Ds which he has and to Thanos. Batman couldnt really hurt either one of them so why bring this up.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I take it you dont' understand story element. We've seen DS kill or severly injure too many beings stronger than the legiont o think he was incapable of such.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Here is a scan after his resurrection where Thanos has been upgraded immensely so this is a moot point.

Reality like all other outside influences has a minimal effect on me. Thanos always stays true to himself.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/ThanosQuest1-10.jpg

Again no one has transmuted Thanos into anything after his first death. The reason is because they cant. Thanos can deal with reality warping as this scan has proved.

Please note quan that Thanos is not being attacked with reality warping powers. Someone directing reality warp here is needed to prove that he can resist an attack on him. He resisted casual fluxuations in reality, and yet we see on panel he was still changed. Now how does he reacted to prolonged aimed attacks on him? We have no proof that he could. We know that earlier he got transmuted to stone by warlock's ghost.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You'd be wise to try and prove Thanos ability to beat DS. So far, Thanos is looking like he's going to get his ass kicked. And I haven't even begun to list the many ways DS can do it and Thanos can do NOTHING ABOUT IT. I'll save that for my summation. 😆 😆 😆

I have also shown Thanos hang with the likes of Thor with a mega powerup. Thanos defeated Champion and Thor as the both had the power gem. both were excellent warriors. thanos hung with Thor who just previously rocked Dr. Strange,Silver Surfer, and company in my previous scans. Superman got his sun amp with Darkseid right there alongside him. He did nothing to prevent it. Now you have Thanos having to do with Thor already having his power up and doing just fine. See the enormous difference. One won and took all the other had to offer while the other got entombed int the Sourcewall.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Please note quan that Thanos is not being attacked with reality warping powers. Someone directing reality warp here is needed to prove that he can resist an attack on him. He resisted casual fluxuations in reality, and yet we see on panel he was still changed. Now how does he reacted to prolonged aimed attacks on him? We have no proof that he could. We know that earlier he got transmuted to stone by warlock's ghost.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I still hold my ace cards as I still believe you do as well. So far we have covered one loss to Supes and Doomsday and Thanos one loss to Tyrant. Tyrant>Doomday>Superman.

I have also shown Thanos hang with the likes of Thor with a mega powerup. Thanos defeated Champion and Thor as the both had the power gem. both were excellent warriors. thanos hung with Thor who just previously rocked Dr. Strange,Silver Surfer, and company in my previous scans. Superman got his sun amp with Darkseid right there alongside him. He did nothing to prevent it. Now you have Thanos having to do with Thor already having his power up and doing just fine. See the enormous difference. One won and took all the other had to offer while the other got entombed int the Sourcewall.

The tyrant feat is invalid. Thanos has a power up/weapon. Next.
The Thor feat is a good one for Thanos. Highfather>>>>>>>Thor with PG. DS has already bitched highfather and stalemated him. I have already debunked your theory on DS being taken to the source wall. You completely ignored the fact that DS has gravely injured himself and it wasn't superman's power that did it, and that When DS finally got himself together he stopped superman in mid flight, by then it was too late as superman had them damn near on top of the sun. next.

Nver posted some pretty ancient scans so here is mine.

In this scan you see Darkseid fleeing from Orion. Ill describe what this all means after you see the scans themselves.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/ng06-66.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/ng06-67.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/ng06-68.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/ng06-69.jpg

Ok what we have just seen here explains a lot of information and further backs up my earlier line of reasoning why so few beings get an actual one on one battle with Darkseid. This was in ancient times when he was written in general at a higher level of power. What does Ds do when his son Orion confronts him. He makes an escape attempt. Orion follows him and doesnt let him get away. Ds then instructs his marksmen to fire on Orion. Ds was shown here running from a weaker character and using his troops to defeat him. Ds wouldnt have done this if he could have defeated him on his own.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The tyrant feat is invalid. Thanos has a power up/weapon. Next.
The Thor feat is a good one for Thanos. Highfather>>>>>>>Thor with PG. DS has already bitched highfather and stalemated him. I have already debunked your theory on DS being taken to the source wall. You completely ignored the fact that DS has gravely injured himself and it wasn't superman's power that did it, and that When DS finally got himself together he stopped superman in mid flight, by then it was too late as superman had them damn near on top of the sun. next.

You havent debunked a thing and the judges will know it. Bottom line is Ds lost in this battle. Things didnt go his way and Superman capitalized on it. There was nothing Ds could do to stop Superman from taking him from earth around the galaxy and then from there to the Sourcewall. End of story.

Since you keep bring up Superman let us look at this mighty being who you seem to think lessons DS.

This is Superman and Zod weakend by a red sun. Please make special note that they are actually destroying the planet with nothing but thier fist.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9351/08302005032341pm7oo.jpg

Here we see Superman holding a freaking black hole in the palm of his hand. Those same mighty hands that you like to throw in my face as having beaten DS. I seem to remember a black hole trashing Thanos. Superman's durability>>Thanos????

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/938/untitled152oe8eq.jpg

Again, superman this " Herald lvl being" that you like to try and use to discredit DS, Escapes a DOUBLE black hole, while Thanos couldn't yet handle one.
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/938/untitled152oe8eq.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5207/untitled140kt3ew.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8946/untitled166ov4wo.jpg

Again Superman's Durability>>>> Thanos's ????

Here we see the power of Superman's heat vision. I brought up a feat earier about how Superman powered an engine the moved a planet SIXTEEN times the size of the earth. Now let's look at how his heat vision compares to Hades
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=466263&pagenumber=5#post9628124

This herald lvl being actually can produce heat hotter than hell and destroy a magically enchanted Ax.

I hate to have to turn this into a superman respect thread, but I have to show just how powerful this being you try and use to discredit DS truly is.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/siphonenergy.jpg
Here we see Superman locking fist with a being who had the powers of magneto, superman, and amped by a 5th dimensional genie.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5190704

Remember how Maggeddon had caused the destuction of all the Old Gods, and the New Gods couldn't beat him either. Look at superman in an absolutely sky father moment destroy the maggeddon war head.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=466263&pagenumber=5#post9628124
I'm beginning to wonder if Thanos has as many impressive feats as Superman. Surely you have to to prove thanos has high end feats like superman's if you hope to suggest Superman's one Victory over DS gives Thanos any hope of victory. You also note that This war head could blink out the galaxy. superman is there taking it's full power and dismantling it. Thanos have any galaxy busting or Galaxy resisting displays?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/superpunch.jpg
Since you like to show us DS being harmed by Superman, let's look at what Superman does to the multiversal being known as Dominus with just his fist. Has Thanos ever knocked a multiversal being down?

http://img433.imageshack.us/my.php?image=162be.jpg
Here superman rocks the lord of Chaos. Again I say, When has thanos shown such power? You want to use Superman as a reason to give Thanos a victory, when I have shown that Superman is clearly more impressive than THANOS on the high end of things, And yet, DS has still bitched Superman all but one time without the aid of PIS or CIS. Now bring it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos used it as weapon to hit him with but thats it. Prove that it powered him up.
Ok here we go again with another empty claim. Who has High Father defeated in combat that makes him above Thor in this particular story.?I merely want you to show me some of High Fathers impressive battle wins to establish his superiority over Thor with the power gem here. Could HF defeat Dr. Strannge,Silver Surfer,Drax, and company at once like Thor did?

You havent debunked a thing and the judges will know it. Bottom line is Ds lost in this battle. Things didnt go his way and Superman capitalized on it. There was nothing Ds could do to stop Superman from taking him from earth around the galaxy and then from there to the Sourcewall. End of story.

You are grasping Quan. Highfather is so powerful, no one dare challenge him in battle save DS. Highfather has also merged 4 other skyfathers into one being of his own power. High father also ripped a freaking hole in Reality/Time/Space. Thor with the PG never showed such ability. niether has Thanos. You will have to do better. Eternity doesn't have any uber defeats of beings and yet we know he would pwn pretty much anyone. Just from his displays of power. Also, You really have no case on the superman throwing DS into the source wall thing. I've already proven how powerful Superman is and I've already proven that DS injured himself. You aren't showing us how Superman got the victory of his own Power. he may have taken advantage of the situation, but he didn't out power DS of his own merit. 😕

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nver posted some pretty ancient scans so here is mine.

In this scan you see Darkseid fleeing from Orion. Ill describe what this all means after you see the scans themselves.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/ng06-66.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/ng06-67.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/ng06-68.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/ng06-69.jpg

Ok what we have just seen here explains a lot of information and further backs up my earlier line of reasoning why so few beings get an actual one on one battle with Darkseid. This was in ancient times when he was written in general at a higher level of power. What does Ds do when his son Orion confronts him. He makes an escape attempt. Orion follows him and doesnt let him get away. Ds then instructs his marksmen to fire on Orion. Ds was shown here running from a weaker character and using his troops to defeat him. Ds wouldnt have done this if he could have defeated him on his own.

I'd wager DS ran from Orion due to the prophecy that was fortold.

This is the first part of a two post that will shed some light here on two fights that ended with no real winner.

The first inconclusive fight features Thanos. Thanos battles with Odin in Asgard.

Here are the scans.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-19.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-20.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-21.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-22.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-23.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-24.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-26.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-27.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-28.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-29-30.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-31.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-32.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-33.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-34.jpg

Here you have seen Thanos take all kinds of punishment from a character this powerful indeed in his own right. Thanos did not yield.Keep this in mind for later judges. Please make anote here that Thanos didnt submit or yield when he was in fact losing here. Thanos didnt come there to confront Odin either but he fought him anyways mainly because Odin thought that Thanos wasnt to be trusted. Thanos took everything he had to offer and showed us that he can take loads and loads of punishment from Odin. Durability indeed. We all know how powerful he is. Now while Thanos was losing this wasnt a victory for Odin because the fight was stopped right here..

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-35.jpg

Now here comes Darkseid's unfinished fight in the very next post.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is the first part of a two post that will shed some light here on two fights that ended with no real winner.

The first inconclusive fight features Thanos. Thanos battles with Odin in Asgard.

Here are the scans.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-19.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-20.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-21.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-22.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-23.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-24.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-26.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-27.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-28.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-29-30.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-31.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-32.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-33.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-34.jpg

Here you have seen Thanos take all kinds of punishment from a character this powerful indeed in his own right. Thanos did not yield.Keep this in mind for later judges. Please make anote here that Thanos didnt submit or yield when he was in fact losing here. Thanos didnt come there to confront Odin either but he fought him anyways mainly because Odin thought that Thanos wasnt to be trusted. Thanos took everything he had to offer and showed us that he can take loads and loads of punishment from Odin. Durability indeed. We all know how powerful he is. Now while Thanos was losing this wasnt a victory for Odin because the fight was stopped right here..

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Warlock25-35.jpg

Now here comes Darkseid's unfinished fight in the very next post.

Now the second part of this post.

This features Darkseid and his battle with the green lantern known as Raker.

The scans.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/GreenLanternv380-PageGiant3pg55.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/GreenLanternv380-PageGiant3pg56.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/GreenLanternv380-PageGiant3pg57.jpg

Ok lets make note of the differences in these two fights. Ok in the Thanos battle he was there to bring Thor to his father Odin and was attacked without provocation. Now in contrast we have the Darkseid battle. There was a war going on against green lanterns. Meaning they were both there to kill the other.

Thanos took a lot of more punishment than Darkseid took in his fight. Thanos stood under his own power. Also note that Odin was shocked during the fight that Thanos did in fact live. Meaning he was intending on killing him. He thought he did once, he was wrong and underestimated the titan as nverbeenwthagirl is doing in this very debate.

Darkseid was stabbed and taken up into the air only to be rained down on the ground after his green lantern blocked his omega beams from even being brought into play here. He had a shovel to his face and the Guardians showed up and offered a truce.

Again I am using scans to back up my theories. Ds didnt land one blow in. He was on his back and did nothing of the sort to suggest he would have won this fight. Ds didnt lose just as Thanos because both fights ended without an actual winner.

Odin is much greater than Raker and Thanos stood under his own power while a third party stopped the fight while Ds has failed to even mount an offensive strike against Raker before the third party stopped this battle.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'd wager DS ran from Orion due to the prophecy that was fortold.

The proof is always in the scans my friend.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Since you keep bring up Superman let us look at this mighty being who you seem to think lessons DS.

This is Superman and Zod weakend by a red sun. Please make special note that they are actually destroying the planet with nothing but thier fist.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9351/08302005032341pm7oo.jpg

Here we see Superman holding a freaking black hole in the palm of his hand. Those same mighty hands that you like to throw in my face as having beaten DS. I seem to remember a black hole trashing Thanos. Superman's durability>>Thanos????

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/938/untitled152oe8eq.jpg

Again, superman this " Herald lvl being" that you like to try and use to discredit DS, Escapes a DOUBLE black hole, while Thanos couldn't yet handle one.
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/938/untitled152oe8eq.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5207/untitled140kt3ew.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8946/untitled166ov4wo.jpg

Again Superman's Durability>>>> Thanos's ????

Here we see the power of Superman's heat vision. I brought up a feat earier about how Superman powered an engine the moved a planet SIXTEEN times the size of the earth. Now let's look at how his heat vision compares to Hades
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=466263&pagenumber=5#post9628124

This herald lvl being actually can produce heat hotter than hell and destroy a magically enchanted Ax.

I hate to have to turn this into a superman respect thread, but I have to show just how powerful this being you try and use to discredit DS truly is.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/siphonenergy.jpg
Here we see Superman locking fist with a being who had the powers of magneto, superman, and amped by a 5th dimensional genie.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5190704

Remember how Maggeddon had caused the destuction of all the Old Gods, and the New Gods couldn't beat him either. Look at superman in an absolutely sky father moment destroy the maggeddon war head.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=466263&pagenumber=5#post9628124
I'm beginning to wonder if Thanos has as many impressive feats as Superman. Surely you have to to prove thanos has high end feats like superman's if you hope to suggest Superman's one Victory over DS gives Thanos any hope of victory. You also note that This war head could blink out the galaxy. superman is there taking it's full power and dismantling it. Thanos have any galaxy busting or Galaxy resisting displays?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/superpunch.jpg
Since you like to show us DS being harmed by Superman, let's look at what Superman does to the multiversal being known as Dominus with just his fist. Has Thanos ever knocked a multiversal being down?

http://img433.imageshack.us/my.php?image=162be.jpg
Here superman rocks the lord of Chaos. Again I say, When has thanos shown such power? You want to use Superman as a reason to give Thanos a victory, when I have shown that Superman is clearly more impressive than THANOS on the high end of things, And yet, DS has still bitched Superman all but one time without the aid of PIS or CIS. Now bring it.

Sorry just checked the scan of superman holding black hole. this is the correct one.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9199/supermanblackhole0015ak.jpg

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Tho this battle is yet impressive, You can clearly see thanos stumbling while Odin takes not a scratch. Thanos also is knocked back while Odin stands as if he's just walking on the beach. Odin isn't even in a battle stance. And then to top it off, Thanos was never even remotely having a chance of injuring odin. And we know Odin can be unjured. Then Odin ask Thanos if he would stand down. YOu aren't realizing that they battle was bringing down asgard. Odin was holding back as it was or he risk destroying his home to destroy thanos. I dont' knwo about you, but I'm not fighting anyone in my crib. I like my stuff. LOL. Just like Odin likes his stuff. To put it midly, Thanos doesn't have what it takes to put down any sky father lvl beings. The best he can do is take the punishment for a while.

I responded to why i think that Odin wasnt holding back in my second parter to my original post here.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Sorry just checked the scan of superman holding black hole. this is the correct one.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9199/supermanblackhole0015ak.jpg

Supes has defeated Darkseid while Thor hasnt beaten the real Thanos once.