Battlezone:quanchi112 vs nverbeenwthagirl

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I've already shown superman being handled By DS many times. And with great ease. I've already shown DS beating other beings who operate around Superman's normal power lvls. I've already shown DS harming himself and giving Superman time for a sun amp. What more do you want? I've also shown that No other top tier in the history of comics has performed the feats that superman has. I've also given proof that Superman's durability may be better than Thanos's. Superman is thus rendered null and void. Take your pick. To date he only has one victory over DS and that would be considered PIS by Forum standards. Or we can look at it as another one of Superman's many uber feats since he can do skyfather lvl feats at the drop of a dime.

Well let us take a look at a stalemate now shall we.

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Now where is Superman's amp in this particular story. This was a stalemate. Superman didnt fly up to the sun here or anything of that nature. The fight stopped when they both learned they were pawns in another villains game. Darkseid was tricked as easily as Superman here. This battle also shows how equal they match up with meeting each other straight up. Kinda makes you wonder doesnt it.

Why cant Darkseid just beat him like he used to be able to do. Why does he need to xheapshot him after he was rescued by him from the Sourcewall? Inquiring minds would like to know. Again what amp did Superman have in this story?

Ds looked bad here in these scans. Out thought yet again and another scan where he failed to beat Superman. Tsk Tsk.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
UM, Quan, The gaurdians didn't want to fight DS. So what in the world makes you think Raker stood any chance? Especially since He never hurt DS. But DS had hurt him and destroyed his ring. DS let Raker live and he's talking about thier previous encounters as well as the current situation. Do you note how DS is basically talking trash about the guardians and thier green lanterns and how he just kills them. LOL @you. Obviously he did spare Raker for just what had transpired. Read the scans. You sir haven't proven that any herald lvl beings can defeat DS outside of some clause, a superman jobber aura that allows him to knock over multiversal beings, or DS injuring himself. We already see that DS let raker lives and laughs at the guardians for such an attempt. I'd wager you need to focus on beings more powerful. Cuz The herald lvlers aren't looking too good.

The first time they met Ds had the upper hand this i cannot argue with. The second time they met Ds didnt leave a scratch on Raker. He spared raker after the fight. Is it your point that Ds let him shoot him in the chest and throw his body to the ground mercilessly. Is this what you are saying?

Again Ds let him live after the guardians had left him and in their first meeting. But not during the actual war when they met on the battlefield.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman's durability is not in the same league as Thanos. Thanos pwns the Silver surfer with ease who is considered by most to be superior to Superman. Thanos crushed one while Superman defeats Darkseid here and there.

Well let us take a look at a stalemate now shall we.

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Now where is Superman's amp in this particular story. This was a stalemate. Superman didnt fly up to the sun here or anything of tha nature. the fight stopped when they both learned they were pawns in another villains game. Darkseid was tricked as easily as Superman here. This battle also shows hoe equal they match up with meeting each other straight up. Kinda makes you wonder doesnt it.

Why cant Darkseid just beat him like he used to be able to do. Why does he need to xheapshot him after he was rescued by him from the Sourcewall? Inquiring minds would like to know. Again what amp did Superman have in this story?

Ds looked bad here in these scans. Out thought yet again and another scan where he failed to beat Superman. Tsk Tsk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The guardians gave the ok for Raker to raise an army and for them to engage Darkseid and his army. They implemented the weakness to the color ellow so that they couldn not become more powerful than the gurdians themselves. This is the reason this particular weakness gave Ds the opportunity to seemingly crush his army and exploit this. Even with the weakness though Raker still hurt Ds while Ds did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to Raker.

The first time they met Ds had the upper hand this i cannot argue with. The second time they met Ds didnt leave a scratch on Raker. He spared raker after the fight. Is it your point that Ds let him shoot him in the chest and throw his body to the ground mercilessly. Is this what you are saying?

Again Ds let him live after the guardians had left him and in their first meeting. But not during the actual war when they met on the battlefield.

Please show us DS hurt at all. If you want to recall the scan, it actually shows DS rising and eyes glowing about to do Raker in. Nice try tho. Raker never hurt DS at all. Not one scratch. It matters not if DS actually did anything to Raker. Raker was going all out and didn't hurt DS one bit. You can let this one go. I have soundly trashed this attempt. 😆 😆 😆

P.S. This happened in ancient times and DS hadn't absorbed any of the power of the pantheon's he now wields. Feat debunked and inadmissable on two counts.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First and Foremost, Silver surfer beats superman due to versatility. Not power. If Surfer were to just blast at Superman he would get owned hard. As for your feeble attempt to fool the masses, No one is falling for it. This isn't a stalemate Quan. You realize DS had just spent the majority of his power in helping destroy Imperiex. What is funny is that Severly Depowered from his blast at the Multiversal being, He is still giving Superman as good as he's getting. Nice try tho. superman didn't have any amp, DS had a De amp.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Please show us DS hurt at all. If you want to recall the scan, it actually shows DS rising and eyes glowing about to do Raker in. Nice try tho. Raker never hurt DS at all. Not one scratch. It matters not if DS actually did anything to Raker. Raker was going all out and didn't hurt DS one bit. You can let this one go. I have soundly trashed this attempt. 😆 😆 😆

P.S. This happened in ancient times and DS hadn't absorbed any of the power of the pantheon's he now wields. Feat debunked and inadmissable on two counts.

Also note that Thanos being turned into stone happened before a mega permanent powerup and hasnt happened since.

Again look at Ds's chest and look over the scans again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Silver Surfer doesnt beat Thanos do to his versatility. He bests him every time. There is the difference. Wasnt Superman also fighting Imperiex? When i showed youthe scan of Ds turning chicken and trying to flee from his enraged son I didnt counter with well Orion just had to battle his way onto Apokolips now. You always have excuses for Ds. Fact of the matter Superman stands up to Ds. How many times do you have to see it before you just accept it. Conversely the Silver Surfer and Thor with an amp cannot and have not defeated Thanos.

Niether Silver Surfer Nor Thor have Feats that Superman Does. Period. And you are trying to use abc logic here. Some people think Surfer is superior to Superman. Not all. I do not think surfer is more powerful than Superman at ALL. Just more versatile. ALso, Superman had the power of Kismet inside of him. She did all the work, where as DS used his own power. The fight is thus rendered invalid. You aren't showing all of these instances where Superman actually holds a candle to DS without some kind of plot. And superman Still has greater feats than Thor, SilverSurfer and EVEn Thanos.

P.S. If you can show 3 fights with Superman beating DS without some extenuating circumstances, i'll concede that Superman really is more powerful than DS. Oh but I already have shown that Superman can do skyfather lvl things haven't I?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Look again and note that Ds hada hole in his chest from the gunshot. There was not one thing wrong with Raker. ds didnt land one blow while Raker cut off Ds's chance to omega him with his ring forcefielding his head.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Also note that Thanos being turned into stone happened before a mega permanent powerup and hasnt happened since.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again look at Ds's chest and look over the scans again.

I see a hole in the suit DS is wearing. I dont' see any injuries on DS at all. Did I miss something? 😕

Now once and for all let us discuss the scans that you all knew I was going to bust out here. I will now go over Apokolips now.

This was a standard duel with no powerups involved here. Ds has the day off as well so nver cant use any excuses.

The scans.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/ApokolipsNowPage13.jpg
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Here is a very important scan. This concludes this fight.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/ApokolipsNowPage31-1.jpg

Alright now i want you all to remember back when i posted the Odin battle. This happened at the end of the fight Odin after he already assumed he was dead. Odin asked him if he wanted to yield. Thanos had nothing to gain to press on. It wasnt his intention to battle Odin in the first place. Thanos answers no. He fought longer and took more punishment here than Ds did in this loss i just showed you. Odin oneshotted the Silver Surfer at the start of this battle. Shows you how powerful Odin was here and what kind of insane durability that Thanos has to take this kind of punishment. Also note the fight didnt conclude as it was stopped by a third party.

Darkseid asked for quarter to Superman. Superman although capable of beating him here and there isnt up to Ds's level of power. There was no sunamp or amp of any kind in Superman's favor. We also look to Darkseid's own words as nver did earlier in his first post when Ds made reference to his avatars. He stated that his avatars could not be beat in the physical plane.

Pay attention now as this is very important indeed. Darkseid's own words state here that he was humiliated and defeated by this kryptonian insect. He made no mention of an avatar. He also said that Superman could rule Apokolips if he chose to. Even Darkseid admits how bad this is and doesnt want Superman to tell another living soul. Out of Darkseid's own mouth.

Now we know that Ds was beaten and thrown into the Sourcewall. This was also the real Darkseid because Superman had to come and rescue him. This is another loss on the physical plane.

Let us go to the Hunter and Prey story. Ds called Doomsday. If he were truly unbeatable the worst that could happen was a stalemate right? How could Ds lose in such a onesided way by being utterly decimated and torn apart physically by Doomsday. Superman later had to use a motherbox to save his life and help him restore order on his planet as he kept cyborg busy while Ds fully recovered.

I referenced all of these moments to prove that Ds exaggerated and that scan shouldnt be treated like THE HOLY GOSPEL.
These losses were never specifically retconned and stand as the real Darkseid once and for all.

Nver if you want to see the scan with Darkseid stating that Doomsday is unbeatable i will post it if you want.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Now once and for all let us discuss the scans that you all knew I was going to bust out here. I will now go over Apokolips now.

This was a standard duel with no powerups involved here. Ds has the day off as well so nver cant use any excuses.

The scans.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/ApokolipsNowPage13.jpg
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http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/ApokolipsNowPage26.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/ApokolipsNowPage30.jpg

Here is a very important scan. This concludes this fight.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/ApokolipsNowPage31-1.jpg

Alright now i want you all to remember back when i posted the Odin battle. This happened at the end of the fight Odin after he already assumed he was dead. Odin asked him if he wanted to yield. Thanos had nothing to gain to press on. It wasnt his intention to battle Odin in the first place. Thanos answers no. He fought longer and took more punishment here than Ds did in this loss i just showed you. Odin oneshotted the Silver Surfer at the start of this battle. Shows you how powerful Odin was here and what kind of insane durability that Thanos has to take this kind of punishment. Also note the fight didnt conclude as it was stopped by a third party.

Darkseid asked for quarter to Superman. Superman although capable of beating him here and there isnt up to Ds's level of power. There was no sunamp or amp of any kind in Superman's favor. We also look to Darkseid's own words as nver did earlier in his first post when Ds made reference to his avatars. He stated that his avatars could not be beat in the physical plane.

Pay attention now as this is very important indeed. Darkseid's own words state here that he was humiliated and defeated by this kryptonian insect. He made no mention of an avatar. He also said that Superman could rule Apokolips if he chose to. Even Darkseid admits how bad this is and doesnt want Superman to tell another living soul. Out of Darkseid's own mouth.

Now we know that Ds was beaten and thrown into the Sourcewall. This was also the real Darkseid because Superman had to come and rescue him. This is another loss on the physical plane.

Let us go to the Hunter and Prey story. Ds called Doomsday. If he were truly unbeatable the worst that could happen was a stalemate right? How could Ds lose in such a onesided way by being utterly decimated and torn apart physically by Doomsday. Superman later had to use a motherbox to save his life and help him restore order on his planet as he kept cyborg busy while Ds fully recovered.

I referenced all of these moments to prove that Ds exaggerated and that scan shouldnt be treated like THE HOLY GOSPEL.
These losses were never specifically retconned and stand as the real Darkseid once and for all.

Nver if you want to see the scan with Darkseid stating that Doomsday is unbeatable i will post it if you want.

Doomsday is superior to Superman, DS, and Thanos in hand to hand. Thus I do not discount that physically he beat DS. Even tho technically He should have been an insect since He didnt' boom tube to Apok. As far as Apok now goes, Would that be considered PIS since Superman has never before or since repeated that kind of victory? Or would it just be another of the many skyfather feats that Superman has under his belt? We can let the judges decide. In either case, I don't hild it as a low showing for DS when I have posted so many other scans showign DS bitching Top tiers as well as Superman himself.

I must now make some special notes on the dialogue going on in this fight. If one didn't know how to read effectively, one would assume that this is a regular occurence between DS and Superman. Let's look at some things shall we?
First off, DS comments that he has NEVER been beaten. Not even by Orion. This basically retcons all of his previous losses on record as we know He uses avatars and or Desaad impersonates him. In one fell swoop The retcon is solidified. And Superman doesn't disagree.

2nd we have here DS saying that Superman had grown Stronger. So what does that tell you, That Superman who had done all those things in the past was yet and still weaker than any previous encounter that the two had.

3rd, Superman says that Today he's stronger. Meaning in the one instance, He is actually superior to DS. Even then, DS is giving Superman a hard time of it. Superman has NEVER repeated such a feat again. Thus solidifying that this was a one time occurance.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
We dont' even see the OE or OB's fire. We also know that another Gl held a big bang with his shield. Raker was the greatest Gl of his age.

Yes and I have already shown that taking into account Thanos's power up, DS is still far superior to Warlock with reality manip. And Warlock was weaker than Thanos. Let's for the sake of argument say that Thanos was the same lvl of power as DS, He would still be subjective to reality warp.

I see a hole in the suit DS is wearing. I dont' see any injuries on DS at all. Did I miss something? 😕

Superman is weaker than Darkseid and has never been defeated by reality manipulation. I have already shown you a scan with Thanos stating that he stays true to himself. This proves he survives and can deal this.

Lookey here and see what Thanos can survive.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/marveltheend4kebbin08.jpg
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Look what Thanos could survive due to his superior willpower. He became Almighty here. Thanos became supreme. Something that no one in the DCU has been able to accomplish.

Here is a scan of Cronus absorbing the power of the Presence.

This scan shows how he adapted to the power change.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/wwv2150-31.jpg

The reason i have shown you this scan is to illustrate my point. No one in the DCU has been able to become supreme while Thanos has sustained his existence here. Darkseid has failed basically everytime when has set out for a mega powerup at this kind of level. Cronus here couldnt take on the power of the Presence and went mad. He previously crushed Zeus a skyfather and his whole pantheon with ease. After this battle he became more powerful but wasnt amped until he easily defeated Zeus,Ares, and the rest of his pantheon. It took three religions to basically stop his rampage. He seized the opportunity to obtain ultimate power and he lost his mind.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Doomsday is superior to Superman, DS, and Thanos in hand to hand. Thus I do not discount that physically he beat DS. Even tho technically He should have been an insect since He didnt' boom tube to Apok. As far as Apok now goes, Would that be considered PIS since Superman has never before or since repeated that kind of victory? Or would it just be another of the many skyfather feats that Superman has under his belt? We can let the judges decide. In either case, I don't hild it as a low showing for DS when I have posted so many other scans showign DS bitching Top tiers as well as Superman himself.

Supes just has what it takes to beat Darkseid. It is simple. he has stalemated him,thrown him into the Sourcewall, and beat him down one on one in their duel. There is no other way to look at it. Supes can compete with Ds. Give up on the excuses and accept it and move on.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again Ds had a hole on his chest and Raker actually dictated to Ds what happened. Greatest gl or not still has business doing any of this to Darkseid ever. Ds landed not one blow.

Superman is weaker than Darkseid and has never been defeated by reality manipulation. I have already shown you a scan with Thanos stating that he stays true to himself. This proves he survives and can deal this.

Lookey here and see what Thanos can survive.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/marveltheend4kebbin08.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/marveltheend4kebbin09.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/marveltheend4kebbin10.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/marveltheend4kebbin11.jpg

Look what Thanos could survive due to his superior willpower. He became Almighty here. Thanos became supreme. Something that no one in the DCU has been able to accomplish.

Here is a scan of Cronus absorbing the power of the Presence.

This scan shows how he adapted to the power change.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/wwv2150-31.jpg

The reason i have shown you this scan is to illustrate my point. No one in the DCU has been able to become supreme while Thanos has sustained his existence here. Darkseid has failed basically everytime when has set out for a mega powerup at this kind of level. Cronus here couldnt take on the power of the Presence and went mad. He previously crushed Zeus a skyfather and his whole pantheon with ease. After this battle he became more powerful but wasnt amped until he easily defeated Zeus,Ares, and the rest of his pantheon. It took three religions to basically stop his rampage. He seized the opportunity to obtain ultimate power and he lost his mind.

Actually Quan Superman was being beaten By Dominus with Reality manip until he used his TVO. He also has been subject to reality manip by the queen of Fables, ect. Plus, I've already shown that Superman's durability is>>Thanos going by the black hole examples.

This thread isn't about will power Quan. this is about a fight. Thanos obtaining the heart of the universe has no bearing on anything since it wasn't the 616 thanos who did it, and It wasn't Thanos' own merit. He was used and manipulated. The Chronos argument holds no wieght here. This isn't Chronos Vs. Thanos is it? At any rate, if you think that The God wave is the power of God then need I remind you that DS held the power of God in check like a fly in amber?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Doomsday is superior to Superman, DS, and Thanos in hand to hand. Thus I do not discount that physically he beat DS. Even tho technically He should have been an insect since He didnt' boom tube to Apok. As far as Apok now goes, Would that be considered PIS since Superman has never before or since repeated that kind of victory? Or would it just be another of the many skyfather feats that Superman has under his belt? We can let the judges decide. In either case, I don't hild it as a low showing for DS when I have posted so many other scans showign DS bitching Top tiers as well as Superman himself.

I must now make some special notes on the dialogue going on in this fight. If one didn't know how to read effectively, one would assume that this is a regular occurence between DS and Superman. Let's look at some things shall we?
First off, DS comments that he has NEVER been beaten. Not even by Orion. This basically retcons all of his previous losses on record as we know He uses avatars and or Desaad impersonates him. In one fell swoop The retcon is solidified. And Superman doesn't disagree.

2nd we have here DS saying that Superman had grown Stronger. So what does that tell you, That Superman who had done all those things in the past was yet and still weaker than any previous encounter that the two had.

3rd, Superman says that Today he's stronger. Meaning in the one instance, He is actually superior to DS. Even then, DS is giving Superman a hard time of it. Superman has NEVER repeated such a feat again. Thus solidifying that this was a one time occurance.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I beg to differ. Doomsday has proven himself to be superior to Darkseid and Superman in hand to hand combat. But they have minds dont they as Doomsday is an unthinking monster. Thanos pawned Champion who couldnt be hurt physically by using his mind and setting Champion up for the big fall. This is what makes Thanos so scary. He is an outright beast in physical combat but also uses his mind to defeat opponents who cannot be bested physically. Darkseid couldnt figure a way to get rid of Doomsday after he went through a lot of Apokoliptan warriors and tech. He had to challenge him in combat to be destroyed in a lopsided brawl.

Supes just has what it takes to beat Darkseid. It is simple. he has stalemated him,thrown him into the Sourcewall, and beat him down one on one in their duel. There is no other way to look at it. Supes can compete with Ds. Give up on the excuses and accept it and move on.

I fail to see the comparison of DD to Champion. Champion even witht he PG is inferior to the Adaptive abilities of Doomsday. Thanos didn't even pwn champion with any power. Please also nnote that thanos knew that he would be over come and his TECH shields had already started to buckle. This is a fight. not a match of wits and coolness. I've already debunked your superman fest. It's done. As done as Thanks giving turkey on friday after. Give up. ALL of the Superman scans you have tried to use have been debunked. And in giving me the scans, you have also proven that DS never lost ANY fight before APOK Now. Thanks.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So since Ds says he has never been beaten this retcons all his losses. I have already shown you that we cant take Darkseid's word alone. How does Superman know Darkseid's entire history? 😆 So Superman is like a lie detector right and sensed that he was telling the truth. This was Ds simply trying to intimidate him. We cant just take Ds's word as law can we? I cant.

DS doesn't lie. Especially to inferior Beings. I can pull up scans where superman says that he never thought it possible to physically beat DS. On more than one occasion. Which would back up DS statement that he had never lost. Given the fact there there were avatars and desaad in times past, it stands to reason that DS was telling the truth and echoed by Superman's silence. A nod to DS telling the truth. You have been your own undoing.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually Quan Superman was being beaten By Dominus with Reality manip until he used his TVO. He also has been subject to reality manip by the queen of Fables, ect. Plus, I've already shown that Superman's durability is>>Thanos going by the black hole examples.

This thread isn't about will power Quan. this is about a fight. Thanos obtaining the heart of the universe has no bearing on anything since it wasn't the 616 thanos who did it, and It wasn't Thanos' own merit. He was used and manipulated. The Chronos argument holds no wieght here. This isn't Chronos Vs. Thanos is it? At any rate, if you think that The God wave is the power of God then need I remind you that DS held the power of God in check like a fly in amber?

Ok lets address Darkseid's objectives for a moment with regards to the Godwave.

Another scan.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Genesis4pg14.jpg
This scan shows Ares beating Darkseid to the finish line here. Darkseid was outprepped and it also sheds more light on his incompetency level with other characters. In the Batman and Superman story Batman outmaneuvered Ds mentally twice. Here Ares was a step ahead of Darkseid. Darkseid then did what he knew he had to at the precise moment. Also note that not only did Ares also beat Darkseid to the godwave but that previously in this story he also killed Izaya a being whom Darkseid had been at war with at seeemingly the dawn of time. So in this story Ares did kinda do two objectives that Darkseid failed to accomplish.

Note that he acts at the exact moment when he knows he has to and has help in this story with all these characters working together to stop Ares.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I didnt use this feat as a way to bring about a Thanos feat. This shows willpower and if you dont think that accounts for anything I have news for you it does. A character with all the power in the world and no willpower isnt the greatest character at all now is he? It shows that Thanos can survive what no other beings could survive.

Ok lets address Darkseid's objectives for a moment with regards to the Godwave.

Another scan.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Genesis4pg14.jpg
This scan shows Ares beating Darkseid to the finish line here. Darkseid was outprepped and it also sheds more light on his incompetency level with other characters. In the Batman and Superman story Batman outmaneuvered Ds mentally twice. Here Ares was a step ahead of Darkseid. Darkseid then did what he knew he had to at the precise moment. Also note that not only did Ares also beat Darkseid to the godwave but that previously in this story he also killed Izaya a being whom Darkseid had been at war with at seeemingly the dawn of time. So in this story Ares did kinda do two objectives that Darkseid failed to accomplish.

Note that he acts at the exact moment when he knows he has to and has help in this story with all these characters working together to stop Ares.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I fail to see the comparison of DD to Champion. Champion even witht he PG is inferior to the Adaptive abilities of Doomsday. Thanos didn't even pwn champion with any power. Please also nnote that thanos knew that he would be over come and his TECH shields had already started to buckle. This is a fight. not a match of wits and coolness. I've already debunked your superman fest. It's done. As done as Thanks giving turkey on friday after. Give up. ALL of the Superman scans you have tried to use have been debunked. And in giving me the scans, you have also proven that DS never lost ANY fight before APOK Now. Thanks.

Why do you think I am trying to prove Thanos is cooler. I am proving Thanos is the better think and the better fighter. Case and point. He fought two beings with the power gem. He hung with them both and defeated them when he wanted to. With regards to Darkseid and Doomsday it is this simple. Ds landed one blow and got physically assaulted to the brink of death. Ds could have used his wits to defeat one creature who terrorized his entire planet. This also furher shows Darkseid's inferior mind. He couldnt think of a way to defeat Doomsday. Doomsda couldnt have a conversation with you let alone think of anything outseide of destroy and surive whatever comes your way. When these characters fight they use their wits and adapt during a battle. I have shown that Thanos adapts and thinks on the fly. He didnt know Thor was coming but just showed up. Darkseid knew Doomsday was there and had time to sit and think of way to beat him. Anything. The best he came up with was one omega shot. Anything else prior to this failed. When Doomsday grabbed Darkseid he didnt land one blow in as I have already shown you. Ds in his earlier days against Raker.

History does indeed repeat itself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your retcon isnt even a retcon at all. The judges will see this and decide if villains stating something officially retcons their entire history.

Why do you think I am trying to prove Thanos is cooler. I am proving Thanos is the better think and the better fighter. Case and point. He fought two beings with the power gem. He hung with them both and defeated them when he wanted to. With regards to Darkseid and Doomsday it is this simple. Ds landed one blow and got physically assaulted to the brink of death. Ds could have used his wits to defeat one creature who terrorized his entire planet. This also furher shows Darkseid's inferior mind. He couldnt think of a way to defeat Doomsday. Doomsda couldnt have a conversation with you let alone think of anything outseide of destroy and surive whatever comes your way. When these characters fight they use their wits and adapt during a battle. I have shown that Thanos adapts and thinks on the fly. He didnt know Thor was coming but just showed up. Darkseid knew Doomsday was there and had time to sit and think of way to beat him. Anything. The best he came up with was one omega shot. Anything else prior to this failed. When Doomsday grabbed Darkseid he didnt land one blow in as I have already shown you. Ds in his earlier days against Raker.

History does indeed repeat itself.

LMAO. DS trapped Ares and He only had less than A second to act. He also trapped the ALE with less than a second to act. So you really think He is incompetant? DS has never loss until Apok now. Since Ares and The ALE entity are both>>>>>>>>>>>>Doomsday, one has to really think hard as to whether DS was indeed tellign the truth. It would seem that DS was telling the truth and that He really hadn't loss. I have already shot down every one of your attempts to demean DS power. They have all failed. And I have given Examples of DS great power, to which Thanos has not a feat in his arsenal to compete with. Now I haven' even begun to list the ways that DS can beat thanos becuz thanos doesn't have the powers to compete.