World War Hulk vs Superman

Originally posted by Creshosk
You can become denser using your own mass... Try to keep up...

This statement right here shows me you know jack shit about how mass works. You cannot become denser without becoming smaller or gaining mass if you maintain the same volume. You don't even understand the base concepts of how volume and density work.

Give to me a real world example of something becoming more dense, using it's own mass, maintaining the same volume.

Originally posted by Kutulu
This statement right here shows me you know jack shit about how mass works. You cannot become denser without becoming smaller or gaining mass if you maintain the same volume. You don't even understand the base concepts of how volume and density work.

How desperate you've become relying on the artist's depiction of events. ❌

Originally posted by Creshosk
Tell that to Vision. 313

How desperate you've become relying on the artist's depiction of events. ❌

You've backed yourself into a corner using your own logic, now explain to me how the **** you can gain overall object density maintaining the same volume, using your own mass.

Originally posted by Creshosk

And the fundemental flaw in yours is I didn't say they were the same. I said they were made of the same things. We can go further in if you want. Leptons and nuetrinos if you want... Photons maybe? They're part of what makes the sub-sub-atomic particles...

Is this how you argue? Argue against what you wish the other person was saying?

Why do you bother to post at all?

Once again... where did I say that electons by themselves will make up matter?

Reading comprehension problems much?

It's also one I didn't make.

You don't even need other people here Kutulu, You just argue agaisnt what you think they said. 🙂
Like how electricity can interfere with telepathy... and shield from manipulation of elements behind the shielding like Ironman has...

Yeah, and I'm supposed to belive you know jack shit about physics? sly

Which has what to do with real Cosmic Rays?

because its the most basic thing I could have said... eesh...

Which in actuality has nothing to do with what I originally said that got us on this tangent...

Sure you did...

I'll take that as a no.

Uh huh...

Radio waves and Ultraviolet radiation exist in the real world. >.<

By definition of what is "mystical"...

I'm starting to doubt your grip on reality now kid...

Which has what to do with non-human eyes?

That was an example of a dimension that's full of a limitless form of energy not stated above...

And as I said is the closest example that you listed to... why am I repeating myself? You didn't understand the first time, chances are you won't understand the second...
You can become denser using your own mass... Try to keep up...

You already proven you don't know what it is. Why the hell did you mention "Internet message boards"...

You should get that reading comprehension problem taken care of... If you did you'd see that I already stated where... of course you took the example literally and totally missed the point...

No he didn't. He thunder clapped the sonic waves that were coming at him. I didn't contradict myself, you failed at reading comprehension again... Hell you copied and pasted what happened from another source... guess you didn't comprehend it when you posted it.

Except that said sonic energy was from said creator of said dimension... stop exagerating the feat.

Then again given how poor your reading comprehension is you probably don't think you're exagerating the feat... [/B]

Your responses here are so idiotic that I don't even know where to begin. You are arguing against yourself, arguing against on-panel depictions, and arguing against the very laws of physics in the real world. Your understanding of even basic concepts of college level physics is muddled.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Get a grip. doped and what is that "substance".. in other media its always depicted as slimy... just like cytoplasm...

Where in marvel? Ive seen it in ghostbusters but not marvel.

Originally posted by Creshosk

[ Red herring and argument from silence.

More illogical posting. 🙂

Well you already answered the question.

Originally posted by Creshosk

Oh if you want to get right down to it. Bruce banner should be dead. Superman has the excuse of having an alievn physiology.

No hypocricy there. Hulk doesn't make the slightest lick of sense. Superman.. eh... marginally so but that's because he has a better scape goat.

If you accept that Hulk actually exists as a character there is no point in complaining when other things dont make scientfic sense. Obvoulsy you ahve to accept that Hulk exists as a character to have this debate in the first place.

Originally posted by Creshosk
STRAWMAN. I said nothing of the sort. doped

And the fundemental flaw in yours is I didn't say they were the same. I said they were made of the same things. We can go further in if you want. Leptons and nuetrinos if you want... Photons maybe? They're part of what makes the sub-sub-atomic particles...

Well if you say that energy is physical and then say that are made of fundamentally the samething that implies that you are saying they are the samething. 😬 All thats happened now is that its turned into a god damn semantical argument.

What so energy and matter are different we know that already. So basically what the **** is your point? Basically went through this crap to tell us **** we already know.

Originally posted by Kutulu
You've backed yourself into a corner using your own logic, now explain to me how the **** you can gain overall object density maintaining the same volume, using your own mass.

If you didn't have a reading comprehension problem you'd realize that.

"Go away, kid, ya bah-ther me." 😮‍💨

You have no understanding of physics as you've proven in this thread. You just copy and paste from other sites without understanding it. I suspect it's wikipedia. But it could e some other site.

So trying to explain what I've been saying is wasted on you, especially because you also can't follow trains of thought. and seem to disconnect and tangent off on a parellel track but still different from the origin of the discussion.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Your responses here are so idiotic that I don't even know where to begin. You are arguing against yourself, arguing against on-panel depictions, and arguing against the very laws of physics in the real world. Your understanding of even basic concepts of college level physics is muddled.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I've done nothing of the sort.

If you didn't have a reading comprehension problem you'd realize that.

"Go away, kid, ya bah-ther me." 😮‍💨

You have no understanding of physics as you've proven in this thread. You just copy and paste from other sites without understanding it. I suspect it's wikipedia. But it could e some other site.

So trying to explain what I've been saying is wasted on you, especially because you also can't follow trains of thought. and seem to disconnect and tangent off on a parellel track but still different from the origin of the discussion.

So in other words you cannot back up what you said about an object gaining density without increasing it's mass, nor decreasing it's volume. Owned.hysterical2

Originally posted by Creshosk
Is that how you see the world? You should probably see a shrink or something. You have like no grip on reality.

Yeah?

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
To be expected reply of Creshosk : He'll just mumble something like "fallacy of exclusion". He likes those words.

Originally posted by Zahit
well.....
you certainly LOVE throwing around phrases only a
captain of a high school debating team or a lawyer
or an idiot-savant or an african-grey parrot would use.....

so which one are you?

Originally posted by Zahit
were you picked on at school?

Originally posted by Creshosk

What difference does it make? 😆

Originally posted by Zahit
well.....judging by your "captain of the high school debate team" tactics.....boxed2

Originally posted by Zahit
Well.....I must leave work now and go home than go enjoy the weather.
i'm sure this thread will keep going till the cows come home.......

It's especially been fun "debating" with Creshosk.
He's certainly one hell of a "debater" with an unusual "mastery" of language...

Originally posted by 8bitChris
Creshok, word to the wise, stop using all the fallacy and logic crap.

A large part of debating is knowing your audience. We're just comic book fans. Any attempt you make at sounding superior by using the same fallacy terms over and over again is just making you come off like an elitist and arrogant prick. Nobody on this board actually gives a, you know what, about them.

The fact that you are guilty of most of the fallacy terms you use doesn't help either.

Anyone want to call him on it?
here
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ [/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by Zahit
Actually it makes him sound like a nerd......

Originally posted by 8bitChris
You havn't touched a nerve Cresh. You're just getting called on your condescending attitude.

And if that is the best of your abilities, then i'm sorry.

See what I did there? Was that an appeal to pity?

Or wait, what was your last post, an appeal to ridicule?

I'm sorry, but after reading "fallacy of exclusion" for the 50th time it gets a little annoying. And a lot of the time it is unwarranted. I mean, if the person hasn't had the time to read 80 pages of thread or is ignorant of the comic people are using as a source than they arn't neccesarily excluding any information they know of.

Oh and like I said, if you going to use all these logical fallacies in an arguement titled "Wolverine vs. Spiderman" than there is a stick shoved up somewhere it shouldn't be. At least adhere to them if you're going to cite them to refute everyones' points.

What do I use to argue? Common sense. 😛

Originally posted by willRules
OK Creshosk I am going to assume I can point out these characters stats without this fallacy stuff being thrown at me.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy

That's the problem with a thread that has Wolverine in it : the guy's powers are so inconsistent, you don't know what to believe anymore. Of course the Wolverine defenders will go for his most "impressive" (cough cough) feats, and at the same time they like to ignore little details as what you just wrote.

At least SM's powers are more or less consistent. Anybody who says the same thing about Wolverine, is a liar or an idiot.

Or both.

Owned. GTFO

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah?

Owned. GTFO

Damn Creshok got double owned.

crylaugh

Ok I think were done here.....

Originally posted by Alfheim
Where in marvel? Ive seen it in ghostbusters but not marvel.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well you already answered the question.

Originally posted by Alfheim
If you accept that Hulk actually exists as a character there is no point in complaining when other things dont make scientfic sense. Obvoulsy you ahve to accept that Hulk exists as a character to have this debate in the first place.

Captain america beat a weaker version the hulk, and a bullet killed captain america, Superman is much more durable than bullets so why can't superman beat the hulk?

Idiocy...

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well if you say that energy is physical and then say that are made of fundamentally the samething that implies that you are saying they are the samething. 😬

Originally posted by Alfheim
All thats happened now is that its turned into a god damn semantical argument.

Originally posted by Alfheim
What so energy and matter are different we know that already. So basically what the **** is your point? Basically went through this crap to tell us **** we already know.

Who was it that brought up energy and asked if it was physical?

Originally posted by Kutulu
So in other words you cannot back up what you said about an object gaining density without increasing it's mass, nor decreasing it's volume. Owned.hysterical2

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah?

Anyone want to call him on it?
here
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/

Owned. GTFO [/B][/QUOTE]
Do you have that saved in a notepad?

Talk about pathetic.

Also reported for trolling. wave

Originally posted by Creshosk
reread what I said.

🙄 I'm trying not to insult you but by this point it seems the most logical thing to do...

Yeah cause breaking the PIS rule is cool. 🙂 It doesn't exaist so everything in comics happen.

Captain america beat a weaker version the hulk, and a bullet killed captain america, Superman is much more durable than bullets so why can't superman beat the hulk?

Idiocy...

No, only an idiot would infer that. There's carbon in sugar, and there's carbon in coal.. so obviously I'm saying sugar and coal are the same thing... Because I said both have carbon in them.

CAuse certain people can't seem to read what's infront of them.

not good at following trains of thought either huh?

Who was it that brought up energy and asked if it was physical?

Hey Creshok - guess what - Density is equal to mass/volume

Owned.

Now that you owned yourself, just stfugtfo before you make yourself look even more stupid.

no no no just leave it....let him wallow in ownage...... 😆 Your ruining the ownage now.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Hey Creshok - guess what - [B]Density is equal to mass/volume

Owned.

Now that you owned yourself, just stfugtfo before you make yourself look even more stupid. [/B]

How about we try something novel, something you've never done in your life?

How about we try reading what people actually write... or is that too complicated for you... I'm sure I could find a copy of Go dog Go for you to preactice reading comprehension on...

Knowing you that might be beyond your level.

Originally posted by Alfheim
no no no just leave it....let him wallow in ownage...... 😆 Your ruining the ownage now.

Now can we get back on topic?

Superman's feats are more impressive. They show him to be stronger and faster. Nothing hulk can really do.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Owned. GTFO [QUOTE]
Do you have that saved in a notepad?

Talk about pathetic.

Also reported for trolling. wave [/B]

Reported for being a jackass who doesn't even understand 8th grade science terms.

Originally posted by Creshosk
The moderators have been alerted to your trolling.

You started it, I just finished it.

Originally posted by Creshosk

Now can we get back on topic?

No...go away