Ex-Gay Pride The Truth About Homosexuality

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I just want those who are actively living the homosexual lifestyle to know that there is liberty from that abominable, sinful practice through Jesus Christ.

God has zero tolerance for the sin of homosexuality. Those who do such things will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven, so I want to point as many of those living that lifestyle to Jesus so that they can become free.

I don't believe we should fear same-sex practices anymore. We're still procreating so much that our population has reached such magnitude that current geo-economical methods are becoming increasingly ineffective for resource management.

Married gay couples may still want kids, and an increasing number of women are getting pregnant before they're financially independent or emotionally mature enough to be provide for their kids. Financially independent gay couples might provide a better life for these children as adoptive care-takers.

Christianity is full of obsolete libertarian scare tactics, this isn't pre-AD Roma.

Originally posted by Dolos
I don't believe we should fear same-sex practices anymore. We're still procreating so much that our population has reached such magnitude that current geo-economical methods are becoming increasingly ineffective for resource management.

Married gay couples may still want kids, and an increasing number of women are getting pregnant before they're financially independent or emotionally mature enough to be provide for their kids. Adoptive gay couples might provide a better life for these children.

Christianity is full of obsolete libertarian scare tactics, this isn't pre-AD Roma.

Well, with all due respect when you create your own working universe, and habitable earth, and sustain it, all while holding each of the 10^80 atoms in the observable universe together by the word of your power, and write your own living Bible--then I will follow you.

Until then it doesn't matter what you think. Homosexuality is a sin according to your Creator--and my Creator's--Book.

Colossians 1:13-18
13 He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the Kingdom of the Son of His love, 14 in whom we have redemption through His Blood, the forgiveness of sins.15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created that are in Heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist [i.e. cohere, are held together]..

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
10^80 atoms

Do you adhere to the scientific method or to faith?

The bible's texts contradict the existence of atoms (a discovery made by the scientific method) as it asserts that the earth is 10,000 years old, whereas the scientific method asserts that the earth is 4.54 billion years old. The bible's recount of creation, which is the Word of God, has already been disproved by scientific rigor.

You have already denied the existence of atoms. I am uncertain of our God's existence. However, as I practice the scientific method, I do not believe that Yahweh is God.

Originally posted by Existere
I think people are arguing about a few different things.

Mostly my issue is this: Why 'Ex-Gay'? Why not just 'Straight'?

Touché.

I see part of the movement as a backlash against the "community" for trying to make sexuality seem ironclad. I cannot speak for all of it because I know very little.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
...or else ddm's pseudo-objective sensibilities will be offended.

You're getting there. 313 Just a bit further and we'll basically be in agreement.

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Why am i seeing this thread just now? Jesus is alive how the little girl from demolition man once said, "fuc u lady".. I told myself i wasnt going to get mad on kmc so i wont but sexuallity has been questioned even in the times of christ or else they wouldnt have brushed on the subject. I being gay have probably slept with more str8 married men then u can imagin and no im not a pro whore or anything like tat just a horny guy. There is so much ive learned about the world being gay and seeing the world with different eyes.. If i told u about some of the practices people do u would be grossed out, but because this is kmc family kid friendly i wont. I will say this much humans are natural animals and some times we forget tat and u can say wat u want to say but u cant control wat people do behind closed doors. Now u can hide behind ur bible and tell people how to live or u can be happy and live for urself. There is a world out there tat u dont know about and ur just a virgin trying to follow the rules.

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
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U know wat i miss about being a virgin is the idea of living in a small pure world. One day u grow up and things are not black and white but complex with patterns and shades u couldnt have imagined. Lifes funny u only have 100 years to live from start to finish and no way of knowing wats going to come next, who knows u might get hit by a truck the next day. I tend to be rational, i see people from the church say be good follow the word of god and as soon as church is over turn the other cheek. Jesus was a bad ass in his time, he was a homeless hippy whom was friends with whores and theives..also loved the wine. Could u imagin if he were here today how many people would ignore him. Sure u feed the homeless but do u actually care about them? After they leave do u go above and beyond to make sure they have a place to stay? Do u worry about the hookers like jesus did or pass them by? Do u treat the sick or run wen they cough in ur face. Do u give ur riches away including ur house to strangers? U dont..

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Originally posted by Digi
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Originally posted by dadudemon
Touché.

I see part of the movement as a backlash against the "community" for trying to make sexuality seem ironclad. I cannot speak for all of it because I know very little.

If I were to size up any community as believing that sexuality were iron-clad, I would think the much, much larger voice for that opinion would be coming from the far right. The whole notion seems pretty conservative, doesn't it?

I think that there is a term that encompasses the backlash against that idea, and it's found somewhere in the LGBTQ sandwhich.

Obviously there are varied opinions all over the board though.

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I just want those who are actively living the homosexual lifestyle to know that there is liberty from that abominable, sinful practice through Jesus Christ.

Originally posted by Existere
That's interesting. In this context, what does "community" refer to?

Whatever you want it to apply to. Seriously. That's why it is in quotes because it's too broad to pin to something more specific.

Originally posted by Existere
If I were to size up any community as believing that sexuality were iron-clad, I would think the much, much larger voice for that opinion would be coming from the far right. The whole notion seems pretty conservative, doesn't it?

There are little if any of the "far right" making arguments of "ironclad sexuality".

Originally posted by Existere
I just want those who are actively living the homophobic lifestyle to know that there is liberty from that abominably boring practice through gay sex.

Homophobic means "fear of homosexuality".

I don't fear homosexuality. Like God I simply believe that homosexuality is an abominable perversion from what He originally intended as Creator of humankind.

God made us so He gets to make the rules.

Psalm 100:3
Know that the Lord, He is God; It is He who has made us, and not we ourselves; We are His people and the sheep of His pasture.

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Originally posted by dadudemon
There are little if any of the "far right" making arguments of "ironclad sexuality".

Originally posted by Existere
Well, given that it means whatever I want it to, I guess I can say the same thing of the "community".

Okay, cool. So we'll get into that previous argument.

So you think that only the LGBT would be the only element to the label of "community" in my use?

JIA : Using UnChristian methods to make more Christians.

Originally posted by siriuswriter
JIA : Using UnChristian methods to make more Christians.

For saying what God says about homosexuality?

God hates homosexuality not the homosexual. If you are a homosexual just know that God does not hate you and neither do I.

But to maintain righteousness, and uphold His Law (i.e. His Word), God must judge the homosexual based on his/her works (good or bad) because He is holy and just.

That's what a true Judge does.

But God extends His mercy to the homosexual. He tells the homosexual to come out of that lifestyle, and He will help him/her. God extends His grace and mercy to the homosexual because He truly loves him/her.

Mercy is like a gift: it can only be received. But what many homosexuals do is stare the gift horse in the mouth. Instead of accepting God's mercy they try to persuade God to accept their sinful lifestyle, or go along with it.

God will never go along with sin. Unlike our Federal judges God does not compromise so that a person can sin. Moreover, God cannot be bought or bribed.

A real parent doesn't let their three-year old play in the street because that's what they want to do, or put metal objects in light switches because that's what they want to do, or smoke crack because that's what they want to do, or drink a fifth of whiskey because that's what they want to do, or let their thirteen-year-old daughters work in a strip club because that's what they want to do, or let a pimp prostitute them because that's what they want to do, or have sex with animals because that's what they want to do, or commit crimes because that's what they want to do.

A real parent trains a child up in the way that they should go, so that when they are old they will not depart from it. A real parent doesn't care how angry his/her child gets he/she will not permit them to disrespect their teachers, bully other students, curse them out, behave unruly, eat whatever they want (no matter how unhealthy), or just act like he/she does not exist. A real parent won't let their child get away with disobedience and just do their own thing.

Not a real parent. Maybe a weak, compromising parent, but not a real parent.

Well, God is no different except His standard is Jesus Christ. His standard is not our standard. God does not think the way that we think. His thoughts are not our thoughts, nor are His ways our ways. Everything about God is superior and higher in terms of righteousness, holiness, and purity. We just don't realize how holy, clean (morally), and pure God is.

Isaiah 55:8-10
8 “For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord.
9 “For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are My ways higher than your ways,
And My thoughts than your thoughts .

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